Sony HT-G700

Is HT bypass where it will allow the hi-fi amp and stereo speakers will basically act like the front left and right speakers in an AVR setup?

I'm not sure I follow the optical DAC thing, I thought optical was just optical?
 
ninjag said:
Is HT bypass where it will allow the hi-fi amp and stereo speakers will basically act like the front left and right speakers in an AVR setup?

I'm not sure I follow the optical DAC thing, I thought optical was just optical?
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Correct HT bypass changes the amp into a stereo power amplifier.

DAC is a Digital to Analogue converter. Typically stereo integrated amplifiers have analogue inputs only (unless you get a stereo amp with built in DAC) so you would need an external DAC, which'll have

Optical inputs
Coaxial inputs
HDMI input
BNC - electrical input
USB input

You'll need optical/HDMI ARC input, so any video device that goes into the TV will go from the TV to the amp. Unless your sources have multiple outputs, ie dual HDMI out, or HDMI + optical.

You'll only get two channel PCM from TV to a stereo amp, so you'll lose any discrete subwoofer channel .1 LFE
 
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Ah I see, re. optical. It's starting to sound like a stereo amp with the required features is going to cost more than a reasonable AVR! lol

I'll keep researching away, I've a little more time now as I've noticed if I reduce the volume of the subwoofer to 3 (out of 12) it barely sends any of the dialogue to the sub, so they are a little more clear. But obviously I'm losing a lot of bass and perhaps depth. Very frustrating.
 
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Not much in it.

The Yamaha will be more flexible, multiple HDMI inputs, surround decoding, can expand to 5.1
 
Yeah, I'm a little torn between what to do.

I popped into Richer Sounds where the idea of a stereo amp was put to me. He said that a stereo amp with two good speakers could be a better option as there is less compromising compared to a more complex AVR system at a similar budget. It does make sense.

However, I probably would not listen to music in that room, so it's really just for TV and films, but I'm also not massively bothered about having rear speakers and they would be sited low down by the sides of the couch, so I'm not sure just how effective they'd be anyway.

Dialogue is the key thing for me and whilst I was reassured that it would be crystal with a stereo setup, I can't seem to shake the need for a centre speaker. But of course headphones are only stereo and dialogue is perfect with them, so perhaps good stereo speakers will be fine?

From an aesthetic point of view, I would prefer just two speakers at the front, even if they are larger, rather than sides, centre, sub and potentially rears. I just need to know for sure that the dialogue quality will be there.

As for AVR, this seems like a decent package and the subwoofer has crossover adjustment, volume control etc.

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I'm still looking at stereo stuff.
 
With quality enough speakers you can get a decent image without need for a center, but with a center all speech comes from that, so it's central to the image. Stereo amps don't have dialogue enhance feature.

For movies you really need at least 2.1, low bass gets directed to the sub

I sometimes do watch TV shows in stereo with my av pre, just press stereo mode and it's fine.


With that denon 660 system it doesn't matter the crossover function on the subwoofer, as you will use the denons own filtering, so as long as you can bypasss the subs own crossover it's fine.

On a lower budget I'd recommend going stereo speakers- rather than getting cheap 5.1, whether that's with a AVR or Wiim amp or similar is up to you
 
One option if you do go for that denon/wharfedale system, you could keep it for a couple of years, and if you want to go down Atmos, you could re-use the speakers (two or four speakers) for Atmos heights, then upgrade L/R pair, center etc.

Depends if just plan to buy one system, or more of a hobby so you upgrade, ie I started with budget Yamaha AVR and some Kef Codas. Now have much higher end seperates.

Have a read of this thread

Will I notice the difference upgrading from Diamond 9.1s in my home theatre?

Hi, hope everyone is well! I would appreciate some advice regarding audio as it is an area I am not that well versed in. I currently have the below setup: Current Setup: Centre: Wharfedale Diamond 9cs Fronts: Wharfedale Diamond 9.1 Surrounds: Wharfedale Diamond 9.1 Rears: Wharfedale Diamond 9.1...
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Cheers, I don't think I'll end up with Atmos, certainly not in the living room due to the ceiling height and architecture. She would never be happy with it and I'd have to endure the moaning lol

I think I'm going to go for the AVR. I've noticed that lots of stuff I watch on Netflix says 5.1 so I may as well get to experience it properly.

I think the stereo amp path will be too expensive to get one that has optic and hdmi etc.

I'll have a look at the link later today thanks and also look at your suggestion.

Quick question please. If using that Denon with my external devices plugged directly into it, I take it my TV remote will still control them all? (Via eARC?). Also, if I'm watching Netflix etc through the TV apps, will the 5.1 etc still go to the AVR (again presumably though eARC)


Thanks again, I really do appreciate all your advice.
 
You can enable or disable CEC, where AVR remote can control other devices. I disable all of that, as it switches inputs, devices on and off when you don't want it to, as I use a proper multi device IR remote, macros etc.

E-ARC can send audio from your TV into the AVR, as well as an input for video.

It's best to connect all devices to the AVR, then HDMI out from the AVR into a HDMI input (E-ARC) then for the TV apps use the ARC input on the AVR
 
Cool, so it'll only be the AVR remote I end up using? I really want to get away from multiple remotes. I used to use a Harmony one, but I think they've stopped making them. It would confuse the parents and in-laws when they'd come over.
 
ninjag said:
Cool, so it'll only be the AVR remote I end up using? I really want to get away from multiple remotes. I used to use a Harmony one, but I think they've stopped making them. It would confuse the parents and in-laws when they'd come over.
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Don't know depends on what buttons on the remote. I do know when I had a look at another persons system, using CEC I still needed two remotes, as I was going from TV and BD player menu and buttons.
 
Plus the whole thing about "auto" switching inputs and power on/off could be a pain in the backside. ie I switched off my kodi box, but CEC also shut off the TV! I didn't want that, I just wanted to switch the kodi box off, then wanted to change to BD input. So that means the BD player switches the TV back on. And then there is times you want to switch the TV off, but the device doesn't know that.

Also could also switch amp off and on.

FAIL haha
 
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The current TV has all the inputs integrated in the TV menu, so I can control everything with one remote. I'm wondering if I just keep it all connected the way it is and only connect the eARC to the AVR (instead of the subwoofer) then that should still be fine and I'll simply have volume control with my TV remote, but for specific AVR setup and features I'll need to use the AVR remote?

There is some eARC setting on my TV that I have to disable other my little media unit keeps turning the TV back on.
 
ninjag said:
The current TV has all the inputs integrated in the TV menu, so I can control everything with one remote. I'm wondering if I just keep it all connected the way it is and only connect the eARC to the AVR (instead of the subwoofer) then that should still be fine and I'll simply have volume control with my TV remote, but for specific AVR setup and features I'll need to use the AVR remote?

There is some eARC setting on my TV that I have to disable other my little media unit keeps turning the TV back on.
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Hard to say need to have them set up, and you may find out you want to disable some of the CEC features. I'd probably disable everything but input/volume CEC
 
hornetstinger said:
I haven't watched that movie but the only movies I had issue is tenet where you can barely hear what they're saying
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Nolan movies in general have awful audio in my experience, the closest I've ever come to walking out of a cinema for a movie I was enjoying was with Interstellar.

There were a couple of scenes that were loud enough to be painful, I've been to quieter rock concerts, and the loudness was far from the only problem.

I don't think I've been impressed with any of his movies in that regard.
 
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Gray2233 said:
Nolan movies in general have awful audio in my experience, the closest I've ever come to walking out of a cinema for a movie I was enjoying was with Interstellar.

There were a couple of scenes that were loud enough to be painful, I've been to quieter rock concerts, and the loudness was far from the only problem.

I don't think I've been impressed with any of his movies in that regard.
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Yeah that's why I mentioned it, they do seem to be mixed that way.
 
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