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hornetstinger said:
Ive seen Evo 4.2 for £300. They'll be better quality speakers

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I'd recommend better quality standmount over budget floorstanders.
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I'm a little reluctant to get used speakers, I would worry about them being knackered. After watching some videos on the floorstanders and in particular the 12.3, they are deeper than I realised and I'm not sure if such a large footprint will work. So bookshelf speakers may have to be the way forward. Slowly getting there!
 
ninjag said:
I'm a little reluctant to get used speakers, I would worry about them being knackered. After watching some videos on the floorstanders and in particular the 12.3, they are deeper than I realised and I'm not sure if such a large footprint will work. So bookshelf speakers may have to be the way forward. Slowly getting there!
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I've bought lots of second hand speakers. It's fine. Just buy from avforums someone with decent amount of feedback.

Dominic above bought some Evo standmounts and stands saving several hundred pounds

The savings were absolutely immense, thousands saved. For a couple of pairs 10% of the original price one was £400-600 ISH (American so hard to judge original price) I got them for £40. Another model pair £1000 new I paid £150 . Both mint
 
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Not just speakers but remote controls also, £1200 of URC programmable remote controls for £120

Just picked up another , brand new unused one for £30 original price £300
 
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Thanks, that opens up some options then as I've decided to get a subwoofer and centre speaker as well, so should help keep budget creep to a minimum.

I'll have a look at those Evo 4.2 and take things from there.
 
Unfortunately, The Evo 4.2 are going to be too big, which is a pity as they look really good. Because the speakers are now having to go in the bay window either side of the TV (not ideal I know) the footprint will have to be smaller to keep the wife happy. Something more along the lines of the Diamond 12.1. This would also leave more room for a decent sub.

I really like the Monitor Audio Silver 50 (7G) and the footprint is lovely, but they would have to be a good used price as it's too much budget creep if new as I'll need stands.
 
They look nice, I did read a review that didn't favour them very much, needed to have high volume to get the most out of them, whereas I need the lower volume quality for films late at night.
 
I'm sure I read the Diamond 12.2 are good at low volume, or maybe that was the 12.3 floorstanding ones? Getting dizzy again! lol
 
I'm not really sure what would be the best way to know for sure without actually experiencing them? I've started compiling a list of the contenders as I've been getting lost with all the models etc. I've mainly been looking at official reviews, but it would be nice to get user feedback, so I think I'll look at posting a selection in AVF as they seem to have a large active crowd there and hopefully I can get varied feedback.

A few factors I'll presumably need to include will be room size, distance from TV, initial budget (in case centre or subwoofer is required) and size restraints to keep the wife happy!

Hopefully I can get down to a shortlist of three speakers and then see if I can get demos in store. Cheers for all the help, it's been a fast journey so far but I do feel like I'm miles ahead and in a better position from when I initially started.
 
ninjag said:
I'm not really sure what would be the best way to know for sure without actually experiencing them? I've started compiling a list of the contenders as I've been getting lost with all the models etc. I've mainly been looking at official reviews, but it would be nice to get user feedback, so I think I'll look at posting a selection in AVF as they seem to have a large active crowd there and hopefully I can get varied feedback.

A few factors I'll presumably need to include will be room size, distance from TV, initial budget (in case centre or subwoofer is required) and size restraints to keep the wife happy!

Hopefully I can get down to a shortlist of three speakers and then see if I can get demos in store. Cheers for all the help, it's been a fast journey so far but I do feel like I'm miles ahead and in a better position from when I initially started.
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A few brands, some above your budget

Arendel
B&W
Fyne
M&K
Monitor Audio
Dali
Acoustic Energy
Neat
Rega
Dynaudio
Paradigm
Q Acoustics
Perlisten
Wharfedale
XTZ
Tannoy
Kef
Elac
Focal
Genelec
Mission
Mordaunt Short
PMC
Polk
Sonus Faber
Spendor
Linn
Castle
Defintive Technology
Ruark
NHT
Klipsch
JBL
SVS
ATC
Celestion

AVR

Denon
Onkyo
Marantz
Sony
Arcam
NAD
Yamaha
Emotiva
 
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Is that a few brands, or all the brands? :eek: lol
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Some. There's load of other brands, smaller speaker builders like those from North West audio show etc.

Plus loads of stereo/multi channel components, lesser known to more higher end.

But most common ones I can think of

There's other brands, like audio streamers, Wiim is good one, affordable. Eversolo and Hifi rose are good but latter top end model is about £4500. I like the big screen on the front, but I wouldn't pay that much for a streamer.
 
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Ah, I forgot to mention; there's been a development.... :eek:

Finally reached a conclusion on the atheistic sides of things with the wife:

1. Floorstanding speakers only; unfortunately, this is non-negotiable.
2. Front has to be full black grill or at least all darkish. No split tone (i.e. half black grill on top and then walnut underneath because there's already a lot of wood around)
3. The units themselves can be all black or walnut. I think walnut suits our particular living room due to the age and style.

She's been decent about the TV size upgrade and also having additional speakers in the first place, so I have to compromise as well, it's only fair.

With plans to eventually create a 5.1 system, I'm also looking at what centres, rears etc are available with various brands. Dolby ATMOS will never happen, the ceiling is high, the plaster is 120 years old and it would not suit the room.

This is now my short list for front speakers:
  • DALI Oberon 5
  • Wharfedale Diamond 12.3
  • KEF Q550 (not sure about their flat centre speaker, my TV isn't wall mounted, but I think there's other options available)
I've not really looked into subwoofers yet, but that will be coming shortly afterwards.

For reference my living room is 21.5m² which includes a 3m² bay window area (where the TV resides and hopefully the speakers). Viewing distance to the TV is 3.2m. Ceiling is 3m heigh. The floor is suspended original wooden floorboards.

I'm leaning heavily towards the Oberon 5.
 
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Dali are known to be bright on the treble. A member here has Dali Oberon onwall and he doesn't like them

There's Q Acoustics
www.qacoustics.co.uk

Q Acoustics

Q Acoustics
www.qacoustics.co.uk www.qacoustics.co.uk

And Acoustic Energy
www.acoustic-energy.co.uk

Acoustic Energy - world-renowned, award-winning British loudspeakers

Acoustic Energy Loudspeakers was founded in 1987 with the launch of the world-renowned AE1 loudspeaker, setting new industry standards in audio performance from a compact enclosure. In 1994 we joined forces with an overseas manufacturing partner to enable the brand to expand its global reach...
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Also for room size you want m3 volume not m2 area. There's ported and sealed box subs

SVS
BK
Tonewinner
Arendel
Rel
 
This is my worry with online reviews, feedback etc, there's always going to be someone who doesn't like any speaker and being so subjective I think I need to go an listen to a few for myself.

I did have the Q Acoustics 3050i on my list, but initially the split tone of the walnut version makes it a no go. However, the black version could be in the running. I'll put that down as a backup, just in case there's a problem with getting a demo of any of the others, or maybe I can include it as well. I'm not sure if 4 speakers is asking too much.

I'm guessing the volume will be the 21.5m² area x 3m height, so 64.5m³ ?
 
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