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Sorry AMD :(

There is no logic here, ordered what 4 batches of 6 cards, found one good one, were aiming at seemingly £600-800's worth of graphics cards, spent £3600 at any one time on the graphics card, had no problem RMA'ing(having worked in an RMA department for an online computer store I find that hard to believe. Then switched to £1500+ of cards instead, and decided not to try a £80-200 mobo change first, because the logic of something that isn't a 780 or 290 not producing whine has no bearing on if 290/780's produce whine on that mobo.

If true, it's ridiculous and I'd have tried a different mobo after the 3rd or 4th card at worst, particularly if trying 3x psu's(costing a lot more than a mobo). Ignoring 1 of the three problems while spending silly amounts is just mental.

Mobo, gpu, psu... why ignore one. The psu didn't produce whine with previous card yet did with these, so by the same logic why would you count out the mobo, I certainly wouldn't and it's the cheapest part to replace/test.

After 6 cards I'd be driving my computer to the closest store and asking them to test your specific setup and seeing what is wrong before putting another £1800 on another set of cards without being sure an RMA on 6 opened and used cards would be accepted.

Someone else smells something fishy, so do I.


I do not think i have ever saw you post something positive that is not bait lol. He probably just has sensitive ears and has the computer close to him i suffer from tinnitus to the extent i have trouble sleeping and have to have fans on at night so i can sympathise with him how distressing it can be.

And while i lived through the golden era of AMD i am glad i do not have anything from them inside my computer because the whine can drive me nuts to the extent i prefer 70% fan speed over that whine. My last NV cards have all been zero coil whine so yes there is something fishy with AMD and coil whine not us users and coil whine. :p
 
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So lets answer some questions.

1) Yes, I have extremely sensitive hearing, its plagued me for years. My PC is a show PC, so is on the desk next to me. About 2 feet away.

2) Nearly all cards are reference cards, I tried various manufacturers based on reports that some have made minor changes (such as powercolor supposedly putting glue on the coils to quieten them). The quietest cards overall were Asus custom PCB, though they still had noticeable noise.

3) The mobo has been tested with a card with known - whine from my current PC. No whine.

4) PSU tried with a Corsair 1200i, a EVGA supernova 1200 and a Superflower 1200. Tried this for 12 cards. And chanding the PSU's made no difference, all other cards were tested with the corsair only.

5) All these purchases and RMA's done via rainforest, I like OcUK too much to abuse them like I have been the tax evading rainforest company.

The only constants are the CPU and the motherboard, but as I have already tested both of these with a known silent graphics card, I have ruled them out.


The only conclusion im left with is the 290x power design is flawed. So hence trying for some titans. EVGA recognise whine as a fault, and after speaking to a rep have agreed that if im not happy they will advance RMA as many cards as it takes to get the issue sorted.
 
Build an enclosure because after the coil whine goes it is likely fan buzz dislike will take over. It did for me i put my Air 540 under the desk and now i hear 50% less buzz i could NEVER deal with a show computer 2 feet from my ears.

If i had all that money i would just buy some expensive filtered server enclosure.
 
Once again, there is no logical leap that goes from for instance "my old 6970 worked without coil whine on this mobo therefore the mobo is fine with 290's or 780's".

They might be they might not. For the cost of a motherboard, in most cases cheaper than psu's and certainly than the graphics cards you're trying, it's mad to not try a different mobo, it's as simple as that.

There is no logical connection between a motherboard working with one card, therefore it WILL work fine with others. Theoretically it should, that doesn't mean it will and considering the effort and expense used, not trying another motherboard as said, is madness. If 1 out of 30 290's is quiet enough for you on the mobo, either you got 29 bad cards, or 1 bad mobo.... want to have a guess at the odds on each scenario?

You constantly have problems, and have two constants.... but are unwilling to change them because of an illogical conclusion you've made.

As said, I'd maybe, maybe RMA the first two cards before trying a different mobo and psu, but in reality, due to the time/cost/effort of RMA's, I'd try them in a different mobo maybe first thing. I'd be very surprised if it was CPU, it's very unlikely, but possible.

It's also by the way, possible that it is software but people don't think about that.

It's been so long as it hasn't happened for me lately I can't even remember precisely what happened. Something along the lines of my headphones would make a weird screech type noise, low and not absolutely annoying, if I closed a certain program.

Motherboards are all different, interference from things like wireless chips, audio, others, are all possible but not a particularly likely cause.

As said, we're not talking about hearing, I've seen and importantly heard videos of coil whine, it's pretty obvious and I've yet to have a card in a decade that has it. I hear and am sensitive to plenty of annoying little noises, fans, other things, coil whine either very quiet or very obvious would absolutely be noticed. Most people on here still don't have coil whine, the ones that do post because they have a problem, the ones that don't have coil whine rarely make posts and start threads to say "I don't have coil whine". Most cards don't have it, trying almost 30 of one type of component while keeping two things constant is barmy.

EDIT:- as with Rofflay, if you're sensitive to noises then you'll just find another one, why have the computer so close. Years and years ago I drilled a few holes in the wall to a spare bedroom next door and stuck computer in there with extension cables. It fast got irritating changing cd's and dvd's... this was back when I used them. Now, small amounts of psu fan noise, graphics card fan, all in the next room. Not only do I not hear the cars when near silent in the same room, when in the next room I can whack the fans up, overclock further, have higher performance and still can't hear it, it's great.
 
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why would anyone be loyal to either ? haven't most people owned nvidia and amd down the years ? I never understood the brand loyalty thing nvidia and amd don't care about you so why should you them
 
why would anyone be loyal to either ? haven't most people owned nvidia and amd down the years ? I never understood the brand loyalty thing nvidia and amd don't care about you so why should you them

Exactly, its dumb to put it bluntly. I couldn't give a monkeys what's in my pc as long as it does what I want it to. Never did understand why people go on the offensive or defensive on behalf of a company. :confused:
 
They might be they might not. For the cost of a motherboard, in most cases cheaper than psu's and certainly than the graphics cards you're trying, it's mad to not try a different mobo, it's as simple as that.
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If when the titans arive they have *any* noise at all, i'll switch out the mobo and CPU just to make sure.
 
If when the titans arive they have *any* noise at all, i'll switch out the mobo and CPU just to make sure.

Wouldn't think cpu will make any difference tbh

If I had this issue my change would be psu, motherboard.

Someone really needs to get to the bottom of this coil whine issue. Test a known problem card and see if changing any other hardware fixes it. Surprised it hasn't been done yet. Or is they anything? YouTube?
 
30 cards with coil whine? Not a hope, I don't care how unlucky you are.

To those posters who are blaming AMD, that's rubbish, because coil whine can happen with any card, no matter who makes it.

To the OP, sometimes with brand new cards you get coil whine, but it fades after a while. Some people recommend looping a game demo at really low graphic settings so you get really high fps, leave it running overnight.
 
No coil whine on my Asus 290 DirectCU II, intact the only coil whine I've had was on an Nvidia card, but as already mentioned, it seems to be a combination of factors that creates it, so I'd personally never blame either AMD or Nvidia (unless they know a way to stop it and don't bother?)
 
(unless they know a way to stop it and don't bother?)


Supposedly, Titans were engineered in a way to reduce the chances of it happening. Be this through component choices or something else I don't know, but at this time im so sick of coil noise im willing to take anything.
 
Exactly, its dumb to put it bluntly. I couldn't give a monkeys what's in my pc as long as it does what I want it to. Never did understand why people go on the offensive or defensive on behalf of a company. :confused:

Exactly my thinking if I'm honest. Your GPU choice is just like your choice of religion, if you find one that works for you and makes you happiest, that's brilliant and I couldn't be happier for you. Just don't understand those people who feel the need to belittle other people's choices or try to force/coerce/bully others to agree with them.

OP - so long as you end up with a PC you're happy with, then it will all be worth it. Good luck with the next cards mate. :)
 
My Corsair AX1200 PSU has coil whine by just flicking the switch to on, on the back of the PSU.

I had a motherboard that would give coil whine if i had more than 2 GPUs plunged in.
 
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Exactly my thinking if I'm honest. Your GPU choice is just like your choice of religion, if you find one that works for you and makes you happiest, that's brilliant and I couldn't be happier for you. Just don't understand those people who feel the need to belittle other people's choices or try to force/coerce/bully others to agree with them.

OP - so long as you end up with a PC you're happy with, then it will all be worth it. Good luck with the next cards mate. :)

+1 Well said stu
 
Exactly my thinking if I'm honest. Your GPU choice is just like your choice of religion, if you find one that works for you and makes you happiest, that's brilliant and I couldn't be happier for you. Just don't understand those people who feel the need to belittle other people's choices or try to force/coerce/bully others to agree with them.

OP - so long as you end up with a PC you're happy with, then it will all be worth it. Good luck with the next cards mate. :)

Nailed it.
 
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