Spanish Grand Prix 2014, Catalunya - Race 5/19

Glaucus said:
Just lol. Drs advantage will be lost after the first corner or two. Seeing as Drs only happens on two parts of the track it is very easy to pull those figures. Or does Drs magically mean they can follow in dirty air indefinitely even when not in use. What an absolutely uninformed question.
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You have sort of defeated your own argument by saying that the DRS advantage persists for 'a corner or two'. If it does indeed persist for two corners, then an overtake at the second corner following deactivation of the DRS would not count as having been achieved 'under DRS' but would have still been aided by the existence of DRS.
 
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rubberduck said:
You have sort of defeated your own argument by saying that the DRS advantage persists for 'a corner or two'. If it does indeed persist for two corners, then an overtake at the second corner following deactivation of the DRS would not count as having been achieved 'under DRS' but would have still been aided by the existence of DRS.
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Not in the slightest, have you totally forgot about the following distance which is the main point. And it doesn't really affect the overtakes stats, as to balance it out, how many overtakes are lost and they wait for the Drs zone.

The issue it was meant for was massively reduced the year it was introduced. double diffuser and blown diffuser mitigate the reduction in dirty air a bit, but it was still massively reduced that year and now it just doesn't exist other than a reasonable amount.
 
It's also not just about getting close it's how long they can sit there when it happens without passing. Look at Vettel when he couldn't pass he told the team he was going to drop back. Following a car closedly for a few laps still eats these tyres and any advantage you had in the pass is then quickly lose again through tyre wear.

Alonso did this time and time again a couple of years ago, drop back leave a decent gap and wait to charge. It's not like DRS is artificially placing cars where they shouldn't be. It's just speeding up the process because of the damage inflicted following a car closely. It's not like it's common that a car passes useing DRS and then get's repassed by the car using DRS the next lap. 95% of the time they pass and get on their way.
 
i dont like drs myself
but having the choice of
1) rules as they are w/ drs
2) rules as they are w/o drs

id pick 1) every time

i still believe some sort of power unit energy harvest boost/tweaks could potentially reduce the drs need.
 
The Renault World Series have an interesting take on it. They have a limited number of boosts per race.

However that is squarely in the "push to pass" camp, where as DRS is a device to negate the issues of following someone closely, which is subtly yet importantly different.
 
I was going to say that there is a possibility he will crash so badly that he would not be able to continue, but then I remembered, its Maldonado, at Monaco, I doubt he will actually be able to drive fast enough to get injured, so I think its a safe bet that he will have at least 2 incidents.
Perhaps I should ask for odds on him colliding with 2 or more drivers in the race?
 
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