Spanish Grand Prix 2014, Catalunya - Race 5/19

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**** sake I was just taking a swig of Pepsi :eek::D
 
What an utterly stupid idea, leave them as is.
It will pass more people off.
The people who don't like to sound, in most cases don't like the engine revs full stop.
People will get used to it and next year will move in to moaning about something else.
 
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:rolleyes: slightly difference, is engine noise does not affect racing. Drs does. So yes I will continue to moan about drs. As it kills so much racing. It's nothing but a push to pass button.

So, on the one hand we have you here moaning about the Drag Reduction System. And yet on the other hand....

Oh look more moaning, not sure why i came in here. Yay, you dont enjoy it. Fair enough, but get the **** out and leave the rest of us to it. I cba to read pages of moaning, which is why I've posted so little in the threads recently. Looking forward to seeing the rbr party and T-shiirts on sundays.

....we have you going off on one about people moaning about tyres in the India '13 race thread - and I'm pretty sure that tyres affect racing.

Hypocrite much? ;):p
 
I really can't see the point in these daft ideas to artificially make the engine noise louder. If the engines don't make the noise they don't make the noise!!

Might as well stick a speaker on the back playing a brum brum sound all the way round as sticking some chavvy baked bean tin exhaust on the back!
 
....we have you going off on one about people moaning about tyres in the India '13 race thread - and I'm pretty sure that tyres affect racing.

Hypocrite much? ;):p

How do tyres affect the racing? They all have the same, they don't all have Drs.

F1 changes with technology, there was nothing cutting edge about NA engines. And noise is wasted energy. F1 should be making them even quite. Less fuel means faster racing.

Mo one would be happy with this solution.
 
I really can't see the point in these daft ideas to artificially make the engine noise louder. If the engines don't make the noise they don't make the noise!!

I called it early on in the engine noise thread (albeit jokingly!), sums up F1 today artificial as ****.
 
What he's getting at is that the tyre moaning was because everyone just thought they were crap and kept on saying how crap they thought they were every race, which isn't really the same as something like DRS, a system implemented to directly interfere in one cars ability to overtake another by giving it a temporary aerodynamic advantage. Obviously tyres affect the racing but not quite in a 'press this button to deploy grippier tyres for 15 seconds' way :p

Tyres being crap affected everyone equally (or near enough) so it wasn't 'interfering' in the racing, would be a better term than affecting, much like the engine noise doesn't actually directly 'interfere' with the racing.
 
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DRS is not designed to give an advantage, its designed to negate a disadvantage.

Whether they get it right is a different matter, but its aim is to level the playing field, not skew it.

And it is available to everyone.

As I've said many times, it's a far from ideal solution, but the alternative (processions) is worse.
 
As I've said many times, it's a far from ideal solution, but the alternative (processions) is worse.

Agree 100%, it is not an ideal solution but the sport is better of with it. For any one who disagrees just watch 2010 Abu Dhabi GP where Alonso, despite being pretty much sat on Petrov's gearbox all race, not to mention being a supremely talented driver in a better car, was simply unable to even attempt a pass. He was essentially powerless to stop the championship slipping away from him that day.
 
DRS is not designed to give an advantage, its designed to negate a disadvantage.

Whether they get it right is a different matter, but its aim is to level the playing field, not skew it.

And it is available to everyone.

As I've said many times, it's a far from ideal solution, but the alternative (processions) is worse.

Not everyone can use it, there is no disadvantage. And the perceived disadvantage it was designed for, hasn't existed for several years.
It is a distinct advantage to one car and not the other, and has spoilt so many races.

The following gap has gone from almost two second, down to 0.3 if not less, it would not be a procession at all, seeing as half of the overtakes are done outside Drs area. It just wrecks the racing.
 
Agree 100%, it is not an ideal solution but the sport is better of with it. For any one who disagrees just watch 2010 Abu Dhabi GP where Alonso, despite being pretty much sat on Petrov's gearbox all race, not to mention being a supremely talented driver in a better car, was simply unable to even attempt a pass. He was essentially powerless to stop the championship slipping away from him that day.

This. Trulli trains and the like are a thing of the past, which, even if it's because of a rather artificial method, is a good thing.

Not everyone can use it, there is no disadvantage. And the perceived disadvantage it was designed for, hasn't existed for several years.
It is a distinct advantage to one car and not the other, and has spoilt so many races.

The following gap has gone from almost two second, down to 0.3 if not less, it would not be a procession at all, seeing as half of the overtakes are done outside Drs area. It just wrecks the racing.

How can you possibly pull figures like that out of thin air considering you have zero baseline for any non DRS races for the last 4 years?
 
How can you possibly pull figures like that out of thin air considering you have zero baseline for any non DRS races for the last 4 years?

Just lol. Drs advantage will be lost after the first corner or two. Seeing as Drs only happens on two parts of the track it is very easy to pull those figures. Or does Drs magically mean they can follow in dirty air indefinitely even when not in use. What an absolutely uninformed question.
 
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