Soldato
of course they are going to say that, they have to say things like to save face but I ain't buying it
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Poll: Spanish Grand Prix 2018, Barcelona - Race 5/21
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of course they are going to say that, they have to say things like to save face but I ain't buying it
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Man of Honour
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Yup. Twitter, Reddit. Must be so.
Pirelli risking their reputation to support Mercedes. Sounds likely to me.
Pirelli risking their reputation to support Mercedes. Sounds likely to me.
Soldato
what reputation?
also
http://www.f1analisitecnica.com/2018/05/test-spagna-pirelli-verranno-effettuate.html
too Late for that AMG Pirelli Mercedes
Soldato
Why is it never Ferrari's fault? It's always someone else's problem. It's the engines. It's the hybrid system. It's Verstappen. It's the race director. It's Pirelli.
Mercedes have a poor (by their standards) first few races of the season. 'They've developed another diva of a car which can't work the tyres properly'.
Ferrari have a few dud results. 'The tyres are useless, the Mercedes engine is too powerful...'
Mercedes have a poor (by their standards) first few races of the season. 'They've developed another diva of a car which can't work the tyres properly'.
Ferrari have a few dud results. 'The tyres are useless, the Mercedes engine is too powerful...'
Well the Spanish GP is often really boring (this one was no different) but it's been a good round after seeing Hamilton get a slow start
Soldato
Mods ban this man! How dare he speak of Ferrari that way, all hallowed, wonderful, perfect Ferrari. They can do no wrong and how dare you insult them by insinuating such a thing. Ban you! That is what I say BAN!
Ahem! Sorry, I let my inner Stig out there for a second.
The change may have benefited Mercedes more and/or hurt Ferrari more than others. However it has always been the way, there have been other races and seasons where changes in tyres or problems with tyres has massively changed the result. This change is a relatively minor one and generally the teams are in the same order as before so meh.
Man of Honour
It's funny really. There's a big irony in saying "Pirreli Mercedes" etc, when Ferrari have probably the biggest historical file when it comes to influencing and vetoing decisions that don't favour them.
Soldato
name the last thing Ferrari vetoed?
Soldato
I think it was 2015 when Ferrari vetoed an engine price cut.
They will lose the veto very soon.
Soldato
that's three years ago, I thought there would be something more recent...
Soldato
I assume we're not including the normal hissy fit ultimatum to walk away from the sport? You can take your pick of the months in the year for that!
Soldato
like Mercedes
Mercedes joins Ferrari with threats to leave F1 over Liberty Media's direction
Read more: http://autoweek.com/article/formula...1-over-liberty-medias-direction#ixzz5FYR9KgCF
Soldato
Byeee! Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
Not like they can build an IndyCar chassis they won't race this time...
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Either way, no team should hold power over the governing body and it's hardly related to the Spanish GP....
Finally got round to watching it and.... :O ... dull.
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Yes, watched the 7 mins highlight package on the F1 YouTube channel and dipped in / out of the full race.
Got to the mid point after skimming and decided to stop. Only rated it because of my penchant for smashy bang bang on lap 1.
Got to the mid point after skimming and decided to stop. Only rated it because of my penchant for smashy bang bang on lap 1.
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So Vettel has said that Ferrari would have been worse off after testing today in Barcelona. Pirelli let them use the new and old versions of the tires. Ferrari did a run on the old version and have posted a picture, they are torn to shreds and in a terrible condition.
With all the nonsense spouted it turns out that the team with the fastest tire warm up, which is the entire problem with the older tire on the new surface which causes the blistering.... had terrible blistering with the older tire. The team who runs tires cooler and sometimes even struggles to get heat into their tires was the team that just managed to get good performance out of the supersofts in qualifying.
If the old tires were used maybe Merc go to a 2 stop, Ferrari would probably have gone to a 3 or even 4 stop. On reddit and other forums there was so much whining and here the Pirelli Mercedes stuff. Pirelli made the right call and Ferrari were likely the team helped the most by the tire change.
With all the nonsense spouted it turns out that the team with the fastest tire warm up, which is the entire problem with the older tire on the new surface which causes the blistering.... had terrible blistering with the older tire. The team who runs tires cooler and sometimes even struggles to get heat into their tires was the team that just managed to get good performance out of the supersofts in qualifying.
If the old tires were used maybe Merc go to a 2 stop, Ferrari would probably have gone to a 3 or even 4 stop. On reddit and other forums there was so much whining and here the Pirelli Mercedes stuff. Pirelli made the right call and Ferrari were likely the team helped the most by the tire change.
Soldato
Only the FIA know. Looks you can stop moaning now
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/vettel-ferrari-worse-off-pirelli-tyre-specs-1037957/
Pirelli got it right and Ferrari got it wrong
Soldato
Only the FIA know. Looks you can stop moaning now
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/vettel-ferrari-worse-off-pirelli-tyre-specs-1037957/
Pirelli got it right and Ferrari got it wrong
ok the older soft tyres would have been worse but what about the most durable set of tyres in the range (super hard or hard)
Weren't available at the Grand prix, or even made available as a possible selection so about relevant as a chocolate condom.
Nice try. Any further attempts to come from the tit-fosi?