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Gregster

Gregster

Gregster

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Hi guys, I have a Asus IV formula X79 mobo and a 3930K coming. I am determined to go water cooling and have read Shaypers excelent thread. I intend to have MSI Lightning 680's in SLI and when the EK full cover blocks are available, I will be going with 2 of those. My concerns are will the 2 rads I have in the OcUK kit and the Hardware Labs one be enough? or maybe somebody could spec me a cheaper but just as efficient water cooling soloution pleasee? Also, what would be the best barbs to use and where do I get the hose clips from? Sorry if they seem silly questions.

(Ignore the other bits, I just didn't want to lose them from the basket)

YOUR BASKET
1 x MSI GeForce GTX 680 Lightning 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £449.99
1 x OcUK Tech Lab - V12 Watercooling Kit 360 £264.98
- 1 x Mayhems Aurora - Nebula Blue Coolant 1L £14.99
1 x NZXT Switch 810 Big Tower Case - Matt Black £159.95
1 x Avexir Core Series 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C10 2400MHz Quad Channel Kit (AVD3U24001004G-4CI) - Blue Light £149.99
1 x Sennheiser PC 333D 7.1 Gaming USB Surround Sound Headset £99.98
1 x Hardware Labs Black ICE Radiator SR1 240 £55.98
2 x Scythe Gentle Typhoon 120mm 1450 RPM - 3 Pin £13.99 (£27.98)
Total : £1,241.54 (includes shipping : £14.75).

 
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Looks like an Ok kit although from memory the EX rads need faster fans (could be wrong) so maybe this kit would be a good choice.

Also it might be worth looking at 670's as the performance difference isn't great and saving £300 imo

edit - and the 1850 speed gt's are only about £1 more (again from memory) add a fan controller and find the sweet spot.
edit 2 - Mayhem's Aurora shouldn't be used long term, there Pastel looks great
edit 3 - a 360 and 240 rad is fine for that processor and either 2 670's or 680's with overclocks
 
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Excellent choice of case :)

I chose all my bits seperate for cooling my loop

Don't forget a fan controller as the Switch case the fans are connected to a block
so they are either on or off.

I was advised for 360 and a 240 to do my CPU and 3 cards so I would say your ok.


http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18432216

Good look with the new build and look forward to some serious
benching results when finished :D

Lightnings in Sli, looking forward to seeing that
 
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Cheers guys. I wanted to go with seperate parts but I see something I like and it is out of stock. No rush so may still do it. Good to hear a 320 and 240 are ample and I did loads of research on cases for WC an this case came out with great reviews. I was going to go with the cosmos but it didn't hold a 360 rad at the top very easily (it will but the h20-320 I was originally looking at and may still get wouldn't fit). I decided another Lightning was in my budget Scotty, so went for it :) I may sell the EVGA or I may pop it into the wifes computer (which is basicaly this computer).

I read about the Mayhems clotting up and others have said this isn't something to worry about but I may just go with blue piping and stick with distilled water as I don't want to have to drain it off and then refill every few months. Also I will take your advice and go for faster fans. I am after quiet but with a fan controller, it should be easy to get a happy medium :)

Thanks for the input men and nice build Scotty :)
 
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Cheers guys. I wanted to go with seperate parts but I see something I like and it is out of stock. No rush so may still do it. Good to hear a 320 and 240 are ample and I did loads of research on cases for WC an this case came out with great reviews. I was going to go with the cosmos but it didn't hold a 360 rad at the top very easily (it will but the h20-320 I was originally looking at and may still get wouldn't fit). I decided another Lightning was in my budget Scotty, so went for it :) I may sell the EVGA or I may pop it into the wifes computer (which is basicaly this computer).

I read about the Mayhems clotting up and others have said this isn't something to worry about but I may just go with blue piping and stick with distilled water as I don't want to have to drain it off and then refill every few months. Also I will take your advice and go for faster fans. I am after quiet but with a fan controller, it should be easy to get a happy medium :)

Thanks for the input men and nice build Scotty :)
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How long b4 your mobo and chip arrive?

won't be long b4 you go Tri Sli :D
 
Hopefully Saturday but could be Monday. I wont be using them untill I have all the bits needed and do the build then. Funds are holding me back for ordering the other parts but won't be long :)
 
phobya 1080 rad, less £ than 360+240 rads and then you can use any quiet 120mm fans (like XSPC ones) and save even more money

I personally would also get compression fittings as they are loads easier to use and look better imo
 
Andy, that rad is huge lol. I would rather have something internal also but cheers for the info. I have watched a few Youtube builds and they seem to favour the compression fittings also.
 
I did wonder when we would see you in here :D

To put it simply:

NZXT Switch 810
XSPC Raystorm D5 RX360 kit
XSPC RX240
Your choice of GPU blocks
Take you pick of Mayhems X1 or pastel
compressions

aaand thats about it, can easily knock up a full spec if required, specced a few 810 build over the last few months, lovely cases for watercooling :)
 
It is the fittings I struggle with...All these 7/18 1/4 7/8 confuses the hell outta me. Also, I will build it and will add the LTG full cover water blocks when they are released.
 
Fittings and tubing explained:

The majority if not all fittings will state G1/4 or 1/4 BSPP, this is the inlet THREAD size i.e. the part you screw into the component, you may stumble across some older fittings that use a 3/8 thread.

Tubing/compression ID (inside Diameter) and OD (out side Diameter); I will use 7/16 - 5/8 tubing as an example, the compression fitting needs to match the ID/OD of the tubing, so if using 7/16 - 5/8 tubing you HAVE to use a 7/16 - 5/8 compression fitting.

If you used 7/16 - 5/8 tubing with for example a 1/2 - 3/4 compression, the **** of the compression wouldn't clamp the OD of the tubing meaning it could easily work loose.
 
It will be, it may also be wise to invest a decent fan controller (Lamptron!). Though GT1450's in the grand scheme of things are quiet it still wouldn't hurt to keep them down at around 600rpm while idling ;)

I have 4 x 180mm fans on one channel and 3 x 120mm on another with an FC5 V2, some other controllers would struggle with this.

If you want a fully automated controller (would act like PWM on a CPU fan) then have a look at the aquero controllers.

Edit: If you want to cut some costs have a hunt around the MM, always some odds and ends that come in handy for WC for sale.
 
 
The rads should come with bolts to fit standard 25mm thick fans :)

I'd be careful with the fan controller and having 3 fans on a single channel, the controller is rated to 1A (12w) per channel, an SST-AP121 runs in at 0.33A per fan, while the GT1450's run in at 0.49A per fan.

This is why I suggested a Lamptron controller (FC5 V2 looks almost identical to the scythe controller) as they come with higher watt/amp ratings per channel, the FC5 V2 offers 2.5A/30W while some of the other Lamptron controllers offer well over 40w.
 
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The rads should come with bolts to fit standard 25mm thick fans :)

I'd be careful with the fan controller and having 3 fans on a single channel, the controller is rated to 1A (12w) per channel, an SST-AP121 runs in at 0.33A per fan, while the GT1450's run in at 0.49A per fan.

This is why I suggested a Lamptron controller (FC5 V2 looks almost identical to the scythe controller) as they come with higher watt/amp ratings per channel, the FC5 V2 offers 2.5A/30W while some of the other Lamptron controllers offer well over 40w.
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Cheers and will swap it over for the FC5 V2 :)
 
You don't need the Kill Coil if using Mayhem's Pastel, it has all you need built in.

Also the kit comes with 6 compression fittings so you just need 2 more (here)

I would get an extra bottle of the pastel though, one probably won't fill all that.

Not sure about the fans you have listed, Gentle Typhoons or Akasa Apache's would be my choice.

Apart from that it will be a very good set up
 
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You don't need the Kill Coil if using Mayhem's Pastel, it has all you need built in.

Also the kit comes with 6 compression fittings so you just need 2 more (here)

I would get an extra bottle of the pastel though, one probably won't fill all that.

Not sure about the fans you have listed, Gentle Typhoons or Akasa Apache's would be my choice.

Apart from that it will be a very good set up
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Ok cheers. I will buy another bottle and do you put this in neat or mix it? I was after blue LED fans for aesthetics and those seemed the best? Hopefully with fingers crossed, I will be ordering towards the end of next week, so still have plenty of time to research. The hardest bit for me is what to order. I have little fear of the building as I have seen a few builds on youtube. Obviously the powering on of the parts will be a bum twitcher :p

Oh and thanks for the input guys. I have never been near a water cooled rig or contemplated one till now, so I am deffo a noob :(
 
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