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Hi All,

I want to run multiple Windows VM's in VMWare pro. Not a huge gamer just play indie titles so super high FPS isn't a deal breaker

From reading I need fast RAM but I would like 64GB however the 8pack kits only come on 32GB max over 4 modules AFAICS.

Also not clear on best mobo. It doesn't need lights or that.

So let's say budget 1500 to 2k max
2700x
Mobo
RAM 64gb preference / 32gb minimum
M2 drive 500gb
PSU to drive it all - modular please

I have a 1080 , Fractal case ( R5 or S ), monitor, OS and Keyboard / mouse

Over to you ...
 

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how does this look ?

The 2700x comes with a cooler which 'should' be fine right ? RE the RAM the Asus Mobo says:

AMD Ryzen™ 2nd Generation Processors
4 x DIMM, max. 64GB, DDR4 3466(O.C.)/3200(O.C.)/3000(O.C.)/2933(O.C.)/2800(O.C)/2666/2400/2133 MHz

but I couldn't find any in 3466 section that weren't out of stock ? Should I drop to 3200 or can I get the correct clock on a 3600 set ?

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,480.00 (includes shipping: £11.10)



alternate 3200 RAM

My basket at Overclockers UK:
 
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Lartyconshayo said:
how does this look ?

The 2700x comes with a cooler which 'should' be fine right ? RE the RAM the Asus Mobo says:

AMD Ryzen™ 2nd Generation Processors
4 x DIMM, max. 64GB, DDR4 3466(O.C.)/3200(O.C.)/3000(O.C.)/2933(O.C.)/2800(O.C)/2666/2400/2133 MHz

but I couldn't find any in 3466 section that weren't out of stock ? Should I drop to 3200 or can I get the correct clock on a 3600 set ?

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,480.00 (includes shipping: £11.10)



alternate 3200 RAM

My basket at Overclockers UK:
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The RyZen build will be better for your needs, add the 64gb G.Skill trident Z to that build, in running the same kit, love it, but im running 32gb total across 4 sticks on an MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC with 2 x 960 evo's 256gb each, and an R7 1700.

The Intel chip is more of a gaming chip
 

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thanks - pulled the trigger on the 2700x build( itchy finger anyway ! ) went with the 3200 RAM as has better timings AFAICS and an article in another thread showed that faster MHz doesn't really add much performance wise and swapped out the PSU for a superflower 750W Gold modular :)
 

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Lartyconshayo said:
The 2700x comes with a cooler which 'should' be fine right ?
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Do you want quiet PC?
Depending on what you run in VMs separate cooler would be better if you care about noise.
AMD's cooler is still rather small and uses 92mm fan so needs lots of RPMs to dissipate bigger heat outputs.
And with full all core/thread load 2700X can produce good amount of heat. (just like 8700K whose TDP is "optimistic")
Clock boosting actually depends also on temperature, so with good cooler CPU can give higher performance with more agressive clock speeds.

Reasonably priced Scythe Mugen 5 would be likely one of the best coolers which doesn't conflict with memory slots, uppermost PCI-e slot or cover motherboard's mounting screws.
https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/8320/scythe-mugen-5-rev-cpu-cooler-review/index5.html
(140mm fan heatsinks tend to do those things)
So it's easy for installing/working with components.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/scythe-scmg-5000-mugen-5-cpu-cooler-hs-046-sy.html

Thermalright Macho 120 would be another very good bang per buck heatsink for quiet cooling.
Unfortunately Thermalright seems to be out of fashion maker and isn't available in many places.


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and swapped out the PSU for a superflower 750W Gold modular :)
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SuperFlower used to offer that bang per buck...
But with latest platforms likely being designed also for ease of manufacturing Seasonic has nowadays clearly best bang for the money.
Would have been fair 10£ cheaper and with three years longer warranty.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/seas...plus-gold-modular-power-supply-ca-05r-ss.html
 

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Lartyconshayo said:
thanks - pulled the trigger on the 2700x build( itchy finger anyway ! ) went with the 3200 RAM as has better timings AFAICS and an article in another thread showed that faster MHz doesn't really add much performance wise and swapped out the PSU for a superflower 750W Gold modular :)
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Im running the 3200mhz C16 version, as ive filled all 4 slots I can only get it to 2933mhz, but ive tightened the timings right up to 15-15-15-34-1T-56, again I only have an R7 1700, AMD bin the memory controller too, so top end CPU's get the best cores and best controllers, you may get better luck with the 2700X
 

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For VM work with a 2K max budget I would do something like this...

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £2,039.01 (includes shipping: £11.10)
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NVME Raid accross 2 smaller drives gives a decent perfomance boost over a single drive - and you get enough lanes on TR systems to do it :) - 16c32t might be overkill though - as you more memory limited than CPU limited in typical scenarios - though the TR boards max out at 128GB of ram, not 64.
 

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so built it today but when I put the RAM profile to the 3200 it bluescreens fairly quickly - had a variety of message:
1st : DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL

then 2 x PAGE_FAULT_IN_NON_PAGED_AREA

turning off the RAM profile and it seems to run ok so far - I'm even running Prime95 while writing this and no issues

I'm not super good under the hood although prepared to learn take any advice to get the RAM running at advertised speed !.
 

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Lartyconshayo said:
so built it today but when I put the RAM profile to the 3200 it bluescreens fairly quickly - had a variety of message:
1st : DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL

then 2 x PAGE_FAULT_IN_NON_PAGED_AREA

turning off the RAM profile and it seems to run ok so far - I'm even running Prime95 while writing this and no issues

I'm not super good under the hood although prepared to learn take any advice to get the RAM running at advertised speed !.
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Welcome to Ryzen. Try knock it down to 3000Mhz and see if that works OK.
 

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16gb sticks are double sided, 8gb sticks are single sided, running 2 x 16gb sticks is the same on the system as running 4 x 8gb sticks.

Just waiting for the next agesa update shortly, see what that brings, but after the last one, I couldn't get my 4 sticks to post at anything over 2400mhz, I got that racked off, I pulled 2 of them and just ran 2 at 3200mhz until the next update which allowed me to run all 4 at 2933mhz, see if the next one will allow a bit more.
 

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Ah yes, Ryzen RAM woes... there's a few of us in that boat.

Still yet to iron out my own bugs, but just check: RAM in correct slots- check your mobo manual. Mine needs the two sticks in A2 & B2, not, as you'd reasonably expect, A1 & B1.
Also, more volts. I'm reliably informed that with 1.35v memory, you can tease it up to 1.45v quite safely. Might be worth adding 0.02v increments and see if it helps.

If I manage to solve anything myself, I'll post back!
 

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DoneADougalOnSofa said:
Ah yes, Ryzen RAM woes... there's a few of us in that boat.

Still yet to iron out my own bugs, but just check: RAM in correct slots- check your mobo manual. Mine needs the two sticks in A2 & B2, not, as you'd reasonably expect, A1 & B1.
Also, more volts. I'm reliably informed that with 1.35v memory, you can tease it up to 1.45v quite safely. Might be worth adding 0.02v increments and see if it helps.

If I manage to solve anything myself, I'll post back!
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I have 4 sticks of 16GB so 64GB total all same G-skill as linked above so it SHOULD be ok. I'm a noob at playing with timings though so would happily run it as now with looser timings and just under top rated speed - currently 3000Mhz 16-21-21-50-1T - I'm sure there is a lot of wriggle room to tighten as it can do 14-14-14-34 3200 but I saw a calculator thing in the Ryzen 2 thread I will explore and see how that looks
 

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ok so going into the BIOS of the ASUS X470-PRO and switching on the TPU 1 profile seems to have done the trick I hope. Not stress tested but it's booted and not immediately BSOD after a minute or two at proper 3200 14-14-14-34

EDIT so I had the voltage for the RAM at 1.37 as per the advice in this thread to increment in 0.02 amounts. This I did before doing the TPU thing but also switched on the TPU profile at same time - so now have gone and reduced voltage back to 1.35 - BSOD immediately - can't even get to desktop - so 1.355 now and again not stress tested yet but so far so good
 
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