Spec me a breathalyser kit please

Kenai said:
Only if they were going slow enough that they'll still be there a week Tuesday
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I mean...they asked me to pretty much follow them ! Told them I was pulling off and that was that.

Hell I got broke into and they drove past the two masked burglars at 2 am outside nextdoor just stood there as they 'appeared too brazen!'


I still live in hope that they can do a job.....
 
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Hotwired said:
I could do with a laugh, what would the sales pitch be for increasing the alcohol limit while in control of a motor vehicle.
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There was a bloke on Traffic Cops (or similar) the other week who was arguing that because he was outside his house after a drive from the pub they should let him go :)
Stupid thing was you could see the pub from where he lived.
 
BDEE said:
There is no way I would have driven whilst not being able to feel like I could, but there is a huge difference between that and being over the limit on a breath test...... it just isn't worth the risk, so this would be a good "green light" as a back up, if it actually works properly.
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I'm a bit confused. Are you saying if the machine had said you were fine, that despite thinking you weren't/feeling questionable, that you'd still risk it?
Or do you mean as in the machine would reinforce a "don't do it" factor you had in your mind already?

I wouldn't drive regardless of wether a machine told me or not if I'd had a heavy one the night before. I tend to plan it so I have no reason to drive the next day anyway, if I'm thinking of having a drink. Better off chilling at home, knowing you and everyone else is safe and just enjoying not having to go to the shops/appointments anywhere and being lazy whilst rough/hungover haha!
 
Hotwired said:
I could do with a laugh, what would the sales pitch be for increasing the alcohol limit while in control of a motor vehicle.
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Remember the 60s? No but your grandparents did, they could enjoy themselves and manage to get home without killing themselves.

SexyGreyFox said:
Do you realise we have the highest in the World already (first column)?

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The world has got A LOT smaller eh?
 
katy81 said:
Remember the 60s? No but your grandparents did, they could enjoy themselves and manage to get home without killing themselves.



The world has got A LOT smaller eh?
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Some of them did...

Also there were far fewer cars on the road, and they were going slower on average, and you were far more likely to be having your drink out within easy walking distance of your home.

It's weird how despite the number of cars on the road growing massively since the 60's the number of road deaths has gone down pretty much across the board, but alcohol related ones even more so, almost like there was something that was changing as the number of road users went up.
 
keef247 said:
I'm a bit confused. Are you saying if the machine had said you were fine, that despite thinking you weren't/feeling questionable, that you'd still risk it?
Or do you mean as in the machine would reinforce a "don't do it" factor you had in your mind already?

I wouldn't drive regardless of wether a machine told me or not if I'd had a heavy one the night before. I tend to plan it so I have no reason to drive the next day anyway, if I'm thinking of having a drink. Better off chilling at home, knowing you and everyone else is safe and just enjoying not having to go to the shops/appointments anywhere and being lazy whilst rough/hungover haha!
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No, even if I blew "legal" but I didn't feel I could drive then I wouldn't.

The reason I would want it would be for scenario of waking up, feeling fine but wanting to check, or waking up, feeling rough, waiting it out, but using a breath test to "double check" when I felt ready - Because if I was feeling fine but blew over then of course I would not drive.
 
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Werewolf said:
No it won't. All the airbags a d anti lock breaks in the world don't help much when you hit a tree at speed, or the poor pedestrian you hit who has none of those.
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Also a lot of these drunk speeders who run into things make it much worse because they don't wear seat belts.
They shoot forward at speed and then are propelled back at speed with the air bag into their seat, making it way worse.
 
Slightly off topic - what about lack of sleep - after having my 1st child I would sometimes drive the 15 minutes to work on very little sleep. Legal, but almost certainly less safe than after a couple of pints.

Edit: Reading this, implies that not sleeping for 24 hours is similar in risk factor to being comfortably over the limit in England or a reading of 0.48 mg/l.

Plus alcohol affects people very differently, some think they are Lewis Hamilton, others are extra 'cautious'.

My dad always thought you should be able to retake your driving test after a few drinks - pass and your personal limit is stamped on your licence. I always told him that the 'bar' is there as a minimum and that you should aim to always drive at your best - you owe that to the other road users and pedestrians.
 
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katy81 said:
Remember the 60s? No but your grandparents did, they could enjoy themselves and manage to get home without killing themselves.
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Your sales pitch is rose tinted nostalgia.

Everyone patently had grandparents. But let me elaborate. Mine lived into their 90's and got to be great-grandparents but one of them killed another road user in the good old days and dead people have issues in having descendants.

There used to be vastly less cars, much less people and yet you're wrong to believe it was better. Deaths used to be well over a thousand a year involving a drunk driver now we wring our hands about small fluctuations in a couple of hundred deaths involving drink driving. Non-fatal injuries are much higher than deaths of course.
 
Hotwired said:
Your sales pitch is rose tinted nostalgia.

Everyone patently had grandparents. But let me elaborate. Mine lived into their 90's and got to be great-grandparents but one of them killed another road user in the good old days and dead people have issues in having descendants.

There used to be vastly less cars, much less people and yet you're wrong to believe it was better. Deaths used to be well over a thousand a year involving a drunk driver now we wring our hands about small fluctuations in a couple of hundred deaths involving drink driving. Non-fatal injuries are much higher than deaths of course.
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I fairly regularly use a road that my father used to use back in the late 60's through 90's (he remembers it opening to replace the old route), and he comments regularly how even on a "very quiet" day now it sees far more traffic than on his old commute during what would be considered rush hour, and I know how much it's changed since I learned to drive back in the 90's.

IIRC during lockdown when everyone was commenting on how quiet all the roads where, and how few cars were about that was apparently "early 70's" level of traffic as an idea of exactly how quiet the roads were back before people started to get some idea of how stupid an idea it was to be drinking before getting in a ton or more of metal and doing potentially 70+mph. I found a BBC article suggesting that it was something like 35-45% of what is considered "normal" traffic.
 
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