Spec me a CCTV System

Scream · 13 Jun 2019 at 17:48

jpod said:
Scream - great info thank you. I have exterior house lights, 7W or 11W leds all round. On a timer so there is low light at night.

If I was exploring a pc, 4 cameras with wifi/cables which cameras would suffice? 720 or 1080? Or could they have memory cards on-board? I have access to mains power at all camera 4 locations. Only 1 camera would not be tucked away under the eaves on south facing wall exposed to the elements. Cheers.

1080 is 2MP and cams are moving on.

At the minute the DS-2CD2335 3MP Hik cam’s are the best all round cameras. Superior low light and great during the day. They have a slot for an SD-Card.

If one of your cams are subject to bad weather, you can get a ‘hood’ attachment over the cam that shields the camera but tbh, the cams should be built so you don’t need it.

Stick to Poe. So much easier for installation. One cat cable powers and sends data.

There are new Hik EasyIP 4.0 cams out now. I am sorting out some to test. They will be my choice of cams if I like them. The new low light 8MP cam should be interesting.

If you can hold out for a few weeks, they might be worth buying instead.

Scream · 13 Jun 2019 at 17:54

Rossi~ said:
Unable to find the 4mm DS-2CD2345FWD-I anywhere for reasonable money. Where's best to look?
Ordered a 2.8mm for a test with Synology Surveillance Station at the moment but want at least a 4mm one for one of the placements.

My supplier is charging £105 inc Vat for the 2345

jpod · 13 Jun 2019 at 21:26

Scream said:
1080 is 2MP and cams are moving on.

At the minute the DS-2CD2335 3MP Hik cam’s are the best all round cameras.................Stick to Poe. So much easier for installation. One cat cable powers and sends data.............If you can hold out for a few weeks, they might be worth buying instead.

Thanks a million scream.

So I could use 4 cameras, cat 5 cable, a 4 port POE thingy of a certain wattage and an old PC with blueiris. Is that the right idea?

What size HDD would I need? 1TB? For home?

Thanks

Scream · 14 Jun 2019 at 00:37

Yes.

Quite a few people using blueiris are buying a 2nd hand I5/I7 workstation like the Dell OptiPlex from the bay. Just make sure you can add a good video card if you want to use a 4K screen to get the best output for viewing.

2TB would be better

jpod · 14 Jun 2019 at 08:32

Noted. Thank you very much indeed. That is an awesome head start in the right direction! Best pod

Yaayuh! · 14 Jun 2019 at 08:39

Scream said:
My supplier is charging £105 inc Vat for the 2345

Using an existing supplier for something else, i've got a quote for:
Hikvision DS-2CD2345FWD-I 4 MP IR Fixed Turret Network Camera (4mm) £100.14inc VAT

Huzzah. Now to decide on the following:

Hikvision NVR
Synology Surveillance Station
Blue Iris

Scream · 14 Jun 2019 at 08:47

Advantage of BlueIris, is you can mix and match camera brands and still maintain the smart features of that camera. If you add a Dahua camera to a Hik NVR or vice versa, you will lose the smart features.

Yaayuh! · 14 Jun 2019 at 08:49

Scream said:
Advantage of BlueIris, is you can mix and match camera brands and still maintain the smart features of that camera. If you add a Dahua camera to a Hik NVR or vice versa, you will lose the smart features.

Yes!

Cheers, I will take a look.

ShiWarrior · 20 Jun 2019 at 16:07

Hi all

I want to place a camera in our front bedroom on the windowsill looking outwards

Currently thinking a GoPro with gorillapod , buying 2nd hand

Upto around £50 really

Thanks

Psycho Sonny · 20 Jun 2019 at 17:17

amazon sell cameras for £20-£25 which will do the job better and are designed for this thing unlike a go pro.

if you want to spend more you will get 1080p models ,etc rather than 720p.

ShiWarrior · 20 Jun 2019 at 17:47

Psycho Sonny said:
amazon sell cameras for £20-£25 which will do the job better and are designed for this thing unlike a go pro.

if you want to spend more you will get 1080p models ,etc rather than 720p.

ah cool, thanks
can you get ones that either extend upwards or are quite tall ?

Psycho Sonny · 20 Jun 2019 at 17:50

ShiWarrior said:
ah cool, thanks
can you get ones that either extend upwards or are quite tall ?

No I have one on a stack of books. I'm sure you must also have books you never use or something like that? just needs to be tall enough to look out the window. i have the top book angled so the camera faces downwards but some cameras you can tilt so no need to angle the base.

ShiWarrior · 20 Jun 2019 at 17:52

Psycho Sonny said:
No I have one on a stack of books. I'm sure you must also have books you never use or something like that? just needs to be tall enough to look out the window. i have the top book angled so the camera faces downwards but some cameras you can tilt so no need to angle the base.

ah i see, angled one with books underneath, that will do ! cheers

ill have a quick look at the shop

ShiWarrior · 20 Jun 2019 at 17:57

https://www.amazon.co.uk/YI-Wireles...49611&s=gateway&sprefix=surva,aps,151&sr=8-11

Psycho Sonny · 20 Jun 2019 at 21:25

ShiWarrior said:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/YI-Wireless-Security-Surveillance-Available/dp/B0743BVL2C/ref=sr_1_11?crid=K5REP9FKC30I&keywords=survaliance+cameras&qid=1561049611&s=gateway&sprefix=surva,aps,151&sr=8-11

you can't angle that down for a window they are more for ceiling mounting

https://www.amazon.co.uk/YI-Wireles...ing/dp/B074389PMT?ref_=bl_dp_s_web_3509794031

that is the one he needs if going 1080p

but this is better

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Neos-Smart...keywords=cam&qid=1561062306&s=gateway&sr=8-11

i'd go for that cheaper too

ShiWarrior · 21 Jun 2019 at 09:14

cheers mate

thegreysquirrel · 21 Jun 2019 at 13:14

Would be good to get an idea of what you want it for. You can get pretty decent WiFi CCTV cameras for around £40 to £50 that will be far more effective in that role. https://www.amazon.co.uk/ieGeek-Sec...eywords=CCTV&qid=1561119212&s=gateway&sr=8-14

ShiWarrior · 21 Jun 2019 at 14:32

thegreysquirrel said:
Would be good to get an idea of what you want it for. You can get pretty decent WiFi CCTV cameras for around £40 to £50 that will be far more effective in that role. https://www.amazon.co.uk/ieGeek-Sec...eywords=CCTV&qid=1561119212&s=gateway&sr=8-14

Does look good, but I can not mount it anywhere, it's not my home, has to be placed on a windowsill

Psycho Sonny · 21 Jun 2019 at 15:33

ShiWarrior said:
Does look good, but I can not mount it anywhere, it's not my home, has to be placed on a windowsill

neos camera for £25 then.

you will get reflection and glare. it depends as it's really bad in my kitchen window but everywhere else it's fine.

ShiWarrior · 21 Jun 2019 at 16:21

Psycho Sonny said:
neos camera for £25 then.

you will get reflection and glare. it depends as it's really bad in my kitchen window but everywhere else it's fine.

just read a review
sounds a bit crap if it cant record the events !!

Good motion detection. However, potential buyers be aware that Neos records 12s of video to cloud and then has a 5 minute cool off period before recording again. This means that the burglars can run round and round your house and not be recorded to cloud.
Apparently a SD card will record all events but this is only useful after the robbery and assumes that the Neos has not been stolen.

i need it recording all the time, think this wont work