Did you manage to get a system fitted?
Spec me a CCTV System
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Did you manage to get a system fitted?
I need a good cctv system we where robbed on Saturday while in bed! 
What did they take my coat!! Not sure if they after the car but all they took was a £300 northface coat!
We had no cash in the house but as I have an 8 year old I want a good security camera system for about £300. I am looking to purchase next week.
Any good ideas folks?
What did they take my coat!! Not sure if they after the car but all they took was a £300 northface coat!
We had no cash in the house but as I have an 8 year old I want a good security camera system for about £300. I am looking to purchase next week.
Any good ideas folks?
5 years since I installed Icode on a PC running 2 analogue cameras (600TVL)
Now looking for something better and there 2 (for me) interesting developments:
720p AHD cameras which can run on coax
NVR's with HD cams and POE built in to the NVR
at last CCTV seems to be catching up with the real world
Now looking for something better and there 2 (for me) interesting developments:
720p AHD cameras which can run on coax
NVR's with HD cams and POE built in to the NVR
at last CCTV seems to be catching up with the real world
5 years since I installed Icode on a PC running 2 analogue cameras (600TVL)
Now looking for something better and there 2 (for me) interesting developments:
720p AHD cameras which can run on coax
NVR's with HD cams and POE built in to the NVR
at last CCTV seems to be catching up with the real world
id say analogue is completely dead and you should be looking for something HD and IP based. These hikvision cams are pretty good value. I use a synology NAS as the NVR which im a big fan of.
Two 2.8mm dome cameras delivered recently, to add to the bullet I have covering the back garden. I also got the bracket (shown) and mounting plate (not shown), just in case they're needed to fine-tune the coverage.
I just need to bring the wife around to having one covering the front of the house. She's not convinced.
I just need to bring the wife around to having one covering the front of the house. She's not convinced.
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Two 2.8mm dome cameras delivered recently, to add to the bullet I have covering the back garden. I also got the bracket (shown) and mounting plate (not shown), just in case they're needed to fine-tune the coverage.
I just need to bring the wife around to having one covering the front of the house. She's not convinced.
Is there a reason that you chose that type of a dome over, for example, this type.....
That is what I have found. Even going back to the analogue cameras I found that the ring of lights caused quality issues over that of the separate IR LED's.
In fact one of my Hikvision mini bullets is being replaced by one with two separate IR's due to the relatively poor night quality compared to the turret type. Overall I should not have got that type, although it was a balance as the positioning of it allows a better visual deterrent, but the cost in quality terms is not worth it.
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My 2732 Dome is rubbish at night. Unless there is an outside light on, it's not worth a damn. I don't know if the dome cover reflects the IR or what but it just appears cloudy. I noticed my 2632 bullet wasn't as good as it was when I first got it and last night I noticed 3-4 led's not lighting up.
Gonna buy an EXIR Hikvision this time but not sure which model.
Is there a difference in the technology used in EXIR compared to the IR in the dome camera's?
Gonna buy an EXIR Hikvision this time but not sure which model.
Is there a difference in the technology used in EXIR compared to the IR in the dome camera's?
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Hikvision DS-2CD2332-I
The above is a dome turret type camera.
The equivalent bullet type would be...
Hikvision DS-2CD2232-I5
In general terms I like the "vandal resistance" of the turrets over bullets, albeit I need one for one of the cameras position.
As noted even the analogue EXIR type had better range and night sensitivity over that of the ringed type LED's.
Hikvisions own blurb mention about the much better light extraction rate and other gubbins. Bottom line is for me a cleaner and less noisy night image compared to the other type. Also you do not get a halo type effect which is possible when you get LED light bounce or reflection etc with the ringed type.
The above is a dome turret type camera.
The equivalent bullet type would be...
Hikvision DS-2CD2232-I5
In general terms I like the "vandal resistance" of the turrets over bullets, albeit I need one for one of the cameras position.
As noted even the analogue EXIR type had better range and night sensitivity over that of the ringed type LED's.
Hikvisions own blurb mention about the much better light extraction rate and other gubbins. Bottom line is for me a cleaner and less noisy night image compared to the other type. Also you do not get a halo type effect which is possible when you get LED light bounce or reflection etc with the ringed type.
I have the 3MP 2.8mm DS-2CD2332-I cameras. I have one each for the front and back of the house. They are mounted on the optional turret mounts.
I have them running at 1080p at a constant 8fps and 15fps on motion. They record continuously at 1080p for around 5 weeks before overwriting on a WD 2TB surveillance drive which is in my Hikvision NVR.
A couple of pics which will hopefully help those trying to make a decision.
Day (Nice and clear)
Night (Noisy but it is nearly complete darkness)
I have them running at 1080p at a constant 8fps and 15fps on motion. They record continuously at 1080p for around 5 weeks before overwriting on a WD 2TB surveillance drive which is in my Hikvision NVR.
A couple of pics which will hopefully help those trying to make a decision.
Day (Nice and clear)
Night (Noisy but it is nearly complete darkness)
^^^ Very nice images.
Why did you choose 8 and 15 FPS....? What would your bitrate be and are you using VBR or CBR and if CBR have you tried the smoothing setting...?
Have you done a walk video test to see what you are capturing in terms of motion video for face recognition etc....?
On the front cam do you have one pointing from the opposite side, thus capturing the front and back of a person regardless of their direction of approach...?
Why did you choose 8 and 15 FPS....? What would your bitrate be and are you using VBR or CBR and if CBR have you tried the smoothing setting...?
Have you done a walk video test to see what you are capturing in terms of motion video for face recognition etc....?
On the front cam do you have one pointing from the opposite side, thus capturing the front and back of a person regardless of their direction of approach...?
Is there a reason that you chose that type of a dome over, for example, this type.....
I have no idea if it's correct or not, but in my mind the dome in my image is more vandal resistant, e.g. less prone to damage, or being knocked out of alignment.
I'm in two minds whether to use the bracket I've shown in my image. I'm concerned that it's something that can be knocked, pulled/pushed and disable the camera more easily than a simple dome attached directly to the wall. It also screams 'CCTV!' more than a dome on its own.
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I used the recommended settings for bitrate from Hikvision for my cameras.
8fps @ 2035bps and 15fps @ 3584bps.
I have no idea what the other settings are as my NVR is plug and play. As for face recognition. It is very clear and you can see who the person is. Motion is detected as soon as they walk onto my drive and they can only come from that direction as I live in a terraced house. I have a shared alleyway but that has a locked gate and any person would be seen before they got to it.
I have taken screenshots of the recommended settings PDF which you can see below.
8fps @ 2035bps and 15fps @ 3584bps.
I have no idea what the other settings are as my NVR is plug and play. As for face recognition. It is very clear and you can see who the person is. Motion is detected as soon as they walk onto my drive and they can only come from that direction as I live in a terraced house. I have a shared alleyway but that has a locked gate and any person would be seen before they got to it.
I have taken screenshots of the recommended settings PDF which you can see below.
Having seen the quality of the "traditional" dome camera over that of the turret type of dome with EXIR as noted I had a dilemma over the qualities you mentioned of the Dome to that of the superior, especially at night, image quality of the turret. In the end the turret won, primarily due to those quality differences.
As I have cameras pointing at cameras and then email notification of video loss I'm ok with the turrets. I have one bullet in a location where it is not accessible, I am waiting for its replacement to arrive.
Using the bracket would only be a consideration for me if it meant reducing infrared bounce off a window of enhanced the FOV or something.
The cameras themselves are visible enough to be a deterrent, depending on the perp as our latest visitors seemed not to care.
With a moving vehicle or a person turning their heads or body etc I found that anything less than 15fps can often miss the best still frame.
It surprised me just how far a car can travel in one second and the difference that either 15 or 20 frames in that second can mean in getting a good image.
I'm still refining various adjustments etc and sometimes compromises like expose time settings at night etc have to be made.