Spec me a CCTV System

I was in the same boat as you Benny, living in a quiet area. I went with the Hikvision cameras front and back, but I have a Synology NAS instead of a DVR. I tried the free Hik software, but I couldn't get on with it. We've just installed a Hik DVR at work and I think the Synology software is easier to use. As well as being able to view the cameras over your network, there's also an app for your phone.

Synology Surveillance Station

Using Hik cameras and Synology, I would estimate a basic system cost as follows, but this would depend on your equipment selections and how you set the system up.

IP Cameras - £160 each - £480 (Assume no brackets etc)
Synology NAS - £80 (Basic unit)
Hard disk - £100
Additional license for 3rd camera - £50 (I believe all Synology units come with two licenses)
POE switch - £75 (Could use injectors)
Cables etc - £40

To give you an idea on hard disk size, my cameras are setup for motion detection and limited to using 400GB of disk space each before the NAS automatically deletes recordings. The shortest recording it will make with my settings is 16 seconds which equates to 8MB. I've currently got over 40K recordings, this obviously varies depending on the amount and length of activity.
 
Danny UK said:
I was in the same boat as you Benny, living in a quiet area. I went with the Hikvision cameras front and back, but I have a Synology NAS instead of a DVR. I tried the free Hik software, but I couldn't get on with it. We've just installed a Hik DVR at work and I think the Synology software is easier to use. As well as being able to view the cameras over your network, there's also an app for your phone.

Synology Surveillance Station

Using Hik cameras and Synology, I would estimate a basic system cost as follows, but this would depend on your equipment selections and how you set the system up.

IP Cameras - £160 each - £480 (Assume no brackets etc)
Synology NAS - £80 (Basic unit)
Hard disk - £100
Additional license for 3rd camera - £50 (I believe all Synology units come with two licenses)
POE switch - £75 (Could use injectors)
Cables etc - £40

To give you an idea on hard disk size, my cameras are setup for motion detection and limited to using 400GB of disk space each before the NAS automatically deletes recordings. The shortest recording it will make with my settings is 16 seconds which equates to 8MB. I've currently got over 40K recordings, this obviously varies depending on the amount and length of activity.
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That's fantastic thank you ever so much :)

Think we (collectively as neighbours) will pool funds and see how comprehensive a solution we can come up with.

Is it possible to link cameras on multiple networks? Say for instance if a house at either end of the road and in the middle had a camera or two each? And to share access to the camera network for remote viewing? Or does that get quite complicated?
 
BennyC said:
Think we (collectively as neighbours) will pool funds and see how comprehensive a solution we can come up with.

Is it possible to link cameras on multiple networks? Say for instance if a house at either end of the road and in the middle had a camera or two each? And to share access to the camera network for remote viewing? Or does that get quite complicated?
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Someone in the networking section might be able to answer that. Synology have software for central management, but I don't think it does what you're after - Synology CMS

It might be easier to have individual systems and then you each check your own if one of your neighbours reports a problem.
 
Cool, thanks. It's probably the more robust solution too with individual setups. Will report back if/when we get something in place. Ta for the suggestions.
 
What's the limit in using poe on cat5e? A guy wants me to install a DS-2CD2342 in an outbuilding and says the cable run including up and down walls would be around 90m.

Not sure if cat6 would be better suited to handle the voltage drop.
 
any advice for illegal logins from the Net

got a couple of Hik cameras at my dads, use hiks ddns service

every day i am getting a few illegal logins from the cameras, i think you can try 4 times then it locks out from 20 mins

EVENT TYPE: Illegal Login,login ip:104.168.148.77
EVENT TYPE: Illegal Login,login ip:185.153.197.86

anyone else had this, is it worth trying another ddns provider?

any other ideas?
 
Is that info taken from the log under maintenance section of your Hikvision NVR? Just checked and I don't see any Illegal logins over the past year.

I use no-ip and have port forwarding setup in the router for each camera.
 
Im having some hikvision IP cameras installed this coming week:

6 x ds-2cd2642fwd-i (bullet cameras)
1 x ds-2cd2342wd-i (turret camera)
1x ds-7608ni-e2/8p/a 8 channel POE NVR
4 TB WD Purple drive

Total for all the equipment comes to £1563.22.

Does that seem pretty reasonable? If i price up the same cameras on use-ip it is approx £2450, so about a £900 saving. How can use-ip charge so much more?

My installer is getting them from an official UK supplier who deal with the trade only.
 
Scream said:
Is that info taken from the log under maintenance section of your Hikvision NVR? Just checked and I don't see any Illegal logins over the past year.

I use no-ip and have port forwarding setup in the router for each camera.
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i set it up to email when an illegal login attempt is made,
only realized something was up when i could not log into one of my cameras for 20mins as locked out

its a dynamic IP so reset the router got a new IP and it happened again,

might just be internet noise?

info is from the illegal login email received
 
I'm about to buy a Hikvision NVR, but I've got a couple questions:

-Can you obscure certains parts of the picture (neighbors windows and stuff like that)
-How good is the phone app, if there is one..
 
Mahonyy said:
I'm about to buy a Hikvision NVR, but I've got a couple questions:

-Can you obscure certains parts of the picture (neighbors windows and stuff like that)
-How good is the phone app, if there is one..
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There are 2 apps I've used IVMS 4500 Lite which is Hikvisions own offering, quite easy to set up but very buggy, very often I can only see Hikvisions own cameras in China!
The other is Eziviz, a right pain to set up but I can access my camera views more easily. IIRC you need to scan the barcodes on the cameras to set it up.
 
challengedavid said:
i set it up to email when an illegal login attempt is made,
only realized something was up when i could not log into one of my cameras for 20mins as locked out

its a dynamic IP so reset the router got a new IP and it happened again,

might just be internet noise?

info is from the illegal login email received
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There are certain sites which can be used to search for Internet attached camera's. The sites provides the IP address and if the camera has no security, then the streams can be accessed remotely. If you are seeing attempted log in, then it's likely people are trying the default username and password your camera system uses.

If you have tight security (a profile that is not Admin and long password) then you should be fine.
 
Can someone clarify a couple of things for me, im drowning in a sea of cctv camera information. Could I buy a hikvision camera with an sd card slot and then set the camera to record motion to the card, then access this via the IP over my router? I have a synology nas but i'd rather keep that just as my nas and not start to fill it up with camera footage.

2nd thing, if I have 2 of these cameras do I have to access each separately over their ip's and view each cameras footage individually.

Just trying to have a decent camera but with the minimum equipment cost and cabling!
 
Techno_Viking said:
There are certain sites which can be used to search for Internet attached camera's. The sites provides the IP address and if the camera has no security, then the streams can be accessed remotely. If you are seeing attempted log in, then it's likely people are trying the default username and password your camera system uses.

If you have tight security (a profile that is not Admin and long password) then you should be fine.
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Here is one that does exactly that.

http://insecam.org/en/bycountry/GB/
 
Naan_H said:
Im having some hikvision IP cameras installed this coming week:

6 x ds-2cd2642fwd-i (bullet cameras)
1 x ds-2cd2342wd-i (turret camera)
1x ds-7608ni-e2/8p/a 8 channel POE NVR
4 TB WD Purple drive

Total for all the equipment comes to £1563.22.

Does that seem pretty reasonable? If i price up the same cameras on use-ip it is approx £2450, so about a £900 saving. How can use-ip charge so much more?

My installer is getting them from an official UK supplier who deal with the trade only.
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I priced it around £1800. Why on earth do you need 6 x 2642 bullets? The 2342 turrets are £115 each and are miles better especially at night. Yes they are vari-focal and take an sd card but they are a waste of money especially that you are getting an NVR.

I installed 13 x 2342 turrets this week and they are excellent and it's rare to opt for a bullet like the one you want.
 
What camera would be recommended to cover a front door? I have one camera covering the front of the house but would like one slightly above head level to cover anyone coming to the front door?

I normally go for 4mm but wondering if 2.8mm might be better as it will be so close?
 
Turrets are better than domes and the 2342's are always my choice unless you are afraid of someone moving it, then you have go for a dome.

Only problem with the turrets are they are kind of big but as long as you don't use a junction box, you can get away with it. I'm not sure if the 4mp domes from Hikvision are mini and if not, the domes will be just as big.

What do you use covering the front of your house?
 
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