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I've used a sub 12 'lb impact in .177.
It's incredibly comfortable when you get the stock set how you like, and the one I used was making touching groups at 45 yards indoors using a bipod and 4-16x50.
I'd love one myself, but I'll have to stick with the joys of my 90 quid .22 break barrel.
It's incredibly comfortable when you get the stock set how you like, and the one I used was making touching groups at 45 yards indoors using a bipod and 4-16x50.
I'd love one myself, but I'll have to stick with the joys of my 90 quid .22 break barrel.
Didn't know you could get PCP rifles in UK spec pressures, or do you have a FAC?
Lovely rifle but kind of like hitching an F1 car to a caravan if it is heavily restricted
Where have you been for the last 25 years?
Op - Impacts are a marmite platform, the MK1 sucked, the X fixed most of the issues and the MK2 we basically how it should have been. They’re unfortunately a little heavy/big for close up indoor ratting work, but for bench rest or plinking the magazine makes it quite fun. I would suggest getting a speed loader and shaker tray - you’ll spend as long loading as you do shooting otherwise. Also consider a compressor or air tank for refills, a pump isn’t fun on 500cc and it can legally be posted pressurised. I say this as someone with what was code named the 'Impact Lite' and became the FX Maverick Compact.
The Edgun Leshiy 2 is a fun little gun, self indexing means you go through a mag as quick as you can. Unfortunately the UK importer is useless and Border Farce are being abbreviated Richard’s about direct imports and currently sitting on a lot of them and have been for months.
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You would come across a lot better if you explained the changes to the law that I am unaware of.
I can’t explain the changes to the law that you describe, probably because in terms of power levels, nothing has changed in over 50 years (1968/69 depending on if England or Scotland). Combine that with PCP’s having been designed/produced/sold at sub12 levels for circa 35 years in the UK (AirArms Shamal in ‘87, Daystate, Parker Hale, later Falcon, Theoben, BSA/Gammo etc.) and it would seem you haven’t missed a change, but completely misunderstood UK law.
For reference our power limits are about right for ‘limited’ European countries (16J/12ft/lb), others are higher/lower, Germany is a lot lower, but still has PCP’s.
Obvious NI requires an FAC to even buy pellets, Scotland recently introduced a requirement to licence, but no changes to power limits.
Thanks for the explanation!
So the main reason PCPs are popular in the UK is for semi-auto / shot consistency?
Here its mostly for obtaining massive power increases over the standard limit of 24J, usually for hunting (Although technically that's illegal and there are still shooting clubs obviously). You need to register the guns and obtain the certification, but its nowhere near as hard as obtaining a FAC (and being honest, barely enforced in rural areas).
Do the UK guns come with a fixed regulator or are they freely adjustable?
So the main reason PCPs are popular in the UK is for semi-auto / shot consistency?
Here its mostly for obtaining massive power increases over the standard limit of 24J, usually for hunting (Although technically that's illegal and there are still shooting clubs obviously). You need to register the guns and obtain the certification, but its nowhere near as hard as obtaining a FAC (and being honest, barely enforced in rural areas).
Do the UK guns come with a fixed regulator or are they freely adjustable?
Semi-auto is illegal here, we have magazines that manually index and recently Edgun/Steyr offer ‘self indexing’ which technically isn’t semi-auto as the pellet is fired from the magazine, and not the barrel, but the end result is the same - you empty the mag as quickly as you can pull the trigger. We have no legal requirement for anti-tamper and adjusting the regs in itself is not illegal, the law only really cares if you are exceeding the permitted power level, unfortunately the wording sucks, and the phrase ‘capable of’ is used, being pedantic almost every single rifle and pistol currently sold in the UK could very easily fall foul of that, but that just proves the wording of our law is in need of clarification.
I'm pretty sure you still have to **** the gun between trigger pulls so not really semi-auto.
You gotta do what with the gun now? Hehe
Just get a FAC and a semi .22, you can get this Smith and Wesson A15 that'll take a 25 round magazine.
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That might just be a little over the top.
It would likely have taken you less time to Google and realise I was right than post that.
Think about what self indexing means, you pull the trigger, the pellet is fired from the magazine into the barrel and out the other end, the magazine indexes the next round automatically, ergo it ‘self indexing’, you pull the trigger and the process repeats. On the L2 that’s a full mag in under 3 seconds. Non self indexing requires you to use the cocking lever to index the next round and load it into the barrel, then pull the trigger, trust me, very different things. You also have the MCX in the US, but the UK spec version requires you to push the trigger forward as they felt large capacity pellet firing AR15 look-a-like in what people would perceive as semi-auto was a bad idea.