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Wharfedale Diamond 9.1 5.1 Home Cinema Speaker Package, Black at AV.com
Wharfedale Diamond 9.1 5.1 Home Cinema Speaker Package, Black at AV.com
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All my subs are relatively affordable <£1400 each. One of these is more expensive than all my subs and speakers (what I paid for them) combined and there are people that have spend £9000 on one subwoofer
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Okay fella, we get it, your special interest is subwoofers.
It wasn't through lack of trying. I can see why Sonos fills a gap with how some of the AV community behave.
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I did recommend Diamond 9.1 but you were still looking at budget floorstanders, which I wouldn't recommend- as I went down that route. They were fine for my first speakers but looking back I would have bought the standmount versions, or better quality standmount, or second hand (for the same money)
Most people into AV have bought several speaker types, brands, AVR, power amplifier, av pre amps, TV's, etc so made good and bad choices and know what not to do in the future.
I pointed out a budget but decent 5.1 if you think that's snobbery it's not. It's just better sound, build and upgradeability than active soundbar, and that's a fact. A passive soundbar (and Monitor Audio make them) offers more options as you can use a AVR to power it (left right and center) then buy a active sub of any brand ie BK, Perlisten etc etc, and suitable passive rears ie Diamond 9.0) And whenever you want to change the AVR, sub, rears, or LCR soundbar you can without effecting the rest of the system, and you don't have to sell everything else to just change one item.
Hi folks,
Decided to start a new thread and up my budget. I am looking to build out a nice home cinema system for my 65" LG C3. It is an enclosed 6x3.5m space with low ceilings. The walls are quite thin. I am looking for something that just sounds good and looks good - I am not an audiophile by any means.
I have no idea about centre, sub or rears. I've never had rears so not sure it is critical for how I generally watch TV. I am not a mega film buff either - fairly satisfied with my Beam and Sub-Mini in the house.
I am thinking of the Wharfedale 230s at £300 but could spend more if it's worth it (I see Active 12.3s). I think they look good and will suit the setup.
For a receiver/amp - I don't have any physical media and generally use Alexa for listening to the radio whilst working. Back "in the day" I had an Onkyo that I just Optical Out'ed into a receiver and didn't worry about anything else. Someone has offered me a £125 Denon X540BT which seems like a good deal but potentially quite small/limited? (I have no idea).
Getting itchy feet now as I want to watch Oppenheimer
Thanks
Perhaps controversial but why don't you just add 2 sonos rears, if mini sub is OK for your room size then you're all set?
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Who on earth would buy Sonos now? complete madness. Plenty of other products where the image and use of their products hasn't been tarnished.
Not like the Sonos app was unusable for a couple of weeks either, it's been months.
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The OP and many others will continue to buy their products.
I can't say I'm a fan, and if you really want an all-in-one, plug-and-play soundbar package with sub and rears, I don't know why you wouldn't just buy the Samsung flagship, which can be had for around £700 when they start selling them off every year. £2k+ for the Sonos system is bonkers.
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Whilst the new app has been troublesome for some, others haven't had any issues. Mines been OK.
As he already has the expensive parts and has stated he's quite happy with it - adding two rears is relatively cheap and may be ideal for his scenario.
I have beam, sub & rears and it's been great for years.
I'm just adding an option into the mix.
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Next time I'm in Richer sounds I'll have a listen to Q990D.
Ideally though that sub should be able to removed and another one used, a sub that small, ported will just be a boom box :-/ It'll just be tuned way too high (good for high output, but not for low frequency) and that sub will need a high pass, say around 40hz or so. Usually needed on budget subs.
I have the Beam and sub-mini in the house which works fine enough. I've gone for the Arc in this room as it's a 21sqm box. I can "move" the sub as required between the two setups - discovered that in the app yesterday. Wife probably won't realise it's been moved. I understand the Arc is plenty powerful without the sub though. The rears I'll keep a look out for -- possibly the IKEA ones on stands. Not a major requirement I am told though.
I've had my Beam since Dec 2019 and probably used the app less than 20 times.
I used to sell those packages and they seem great at the time but don't particularly hold their value. I am not spending £2k on a Sonos system - I am spending £720 and I am sure it'll meet my needs. When I get cash burning a hole I may add some bookshelf rears for <£250. The Sub I can move between both systems by just plugging it into a 3-pin power outlet.
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"'I've had my Beam since Dec 2019 and probably used the app less than 20 times."
It's more about not supporting a company that has ruined the experience for thousands of people (including my brother), over the course of months on the streaming side.
Plus for the streamers, they're locked in products, with the known library limitation, which the soundbars (if they have the same hardware, have the same limitation)
So for a all in one soundbar/streamer is a none option
Plus their Sonos subs are overpriced, proprietary and will underperform.
It's more about not supporting a company that has ruined the experience for thousands of people (including my brother), over the course of months on the streaming side.
Plus for the streamers, they're locked in products, with the known library limitation, which the soundbars (if they have the same hardware, have the same limitation)
So for a all in one soundbar/streamer is a none option
Plus their Sonos subs are overpriced, proprietary and will underperform.
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They don't have to hold much value if you can get them new for £700. I've checked avforums and would still get around £500 for my Q990c, which is probably not much different to the depreciation of Sonos equipment over the same period, e.g. you'd only get £500 or so if you sold a year old Arc second hand.
There's not much audio equipment that holds its value well.
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Stereo, and some desired speakers probably keeps the value the most. AVR and AV pre amps especially depreciate to to HDMI changes, ie change from 1080p, to 4K, then HDR, and now with HDMI 2.1 you have 4K @ 120hz, VRR etc.
1080p AVR's are virtually peanuts- but still useful and bargain if you use them for audio decoding only, if able to route video & audio seperatly ie HDMI to 4K TV, and coaxial audio, second HDMI audio, or RCA 5.1/7.1 decoding from BD player to that 1080p AVR.
I can sell my 5 year old Beam 1 for 200 quid still according to marketplace. How much is the 5 year old q990c equivalent?
Same with Bose. My companion 3s are probably a decade old and still go for decent money.
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You would have to be some salesman to get £200 for a Beam 1. In any case, the equivalent Samsung would have depreciated at about the same (realistic) rate. As said, this type of equipment doesn't hold its value as new versions are released fairly frequently.
The last Beam 1 listed here was sold locally instead, and it was priced at £200 including two Sonos Play:1s... That was almost a year ago too. You'd be lucky to get £120 for it, imo.
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Link please - that is a bargain.
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There's a Sonos Beam Gen 1 on gumtree for £170
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Remember, this is also November last year. So if you factor in further depreciation and subtract the price of the two Play:1s, you're looking at less than £150 for the Beam 1. Bidding on eBay for them seems to top out around £150, and that's for the ones with the wall mount included.
IIRC they were about £400 brand new, so it has lost about 62.5% of its value. Granted, you may have paid less than that. I did a quick check on a Samsung bar of the same age and price range, the depreciation is very similar.
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