Spectacular failure!

MrLOL said:
eh ?

that quote you've posted says exactly what marshy says, that once you're car is failed for its MOT, it becomes un roadworthy. Its an offence to drive an unroadworthy vehicle so you cant drive it again untill the defects are corrected

in what way does that link disagree with marshy ?
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It completely disagrees with what Marshy said, he said
Once a VT30 (Fail cert) has been issued it voids any currect Pass cert mate regardless of it's expiry date.
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Which it definately does not, I never said driving an unroadworthy car was legal but you could as said in the linky rectify the issue for example dodgy tyres and then carry on driving until your ORIGIONAL NON VOID MOT expired. You could well have been driving an un-roadworthy car for some time so nothing would change when you are issued with a fail certificate except you would know you were doing it. No extra legislation comes into force at this point your are merely required to make sure you car is road legal.

Marshy said
Once a fail is issued the only LEGAL journey you can make is to or from a test centre OR to or from a place of repair but you are NOT exempt from prosicution & you insurance may be void.
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Which imples all you can do is get the car fixd and put through it's MOT which again is blantantly not true, you can fix the car and drive until the origional MOT expires which is entirely different to what he has stated. The only time these Jouney restrictions come into place is once an MOT has expired when I believe the law only actually permits you to travel to your nearest MOT centre not even one of your choosing.
 
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Yep, I did know that.

Never really went over £20, and couldn't really smell any fuel.

Besides, we did the original welding under the car with the leaky tank (tank was down to fumes though).

/awaits flamage (literally? :D)
 
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a1ex2001 said:
Which imples all you can do is get the car fixd and put through it's MOT which again is blantantly not true, you can fix the car and drive until the origional MOT expires which is entirely different to what he has stated. The only time these Jouney restrictions come into place is once an MOT has failed when I believe the law only actually permits you to travel to your nearest MOT centre not even one of your choosing.
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how is any copper who pulls you going to know if its fixed or not ? you can say it is, but how does he know if you've changed discs and pads or not ?

once you have it fixed, you have to take a retest. What he said still stands.
 
MrLOL said:
eh ?

that quote you've posted says exactly what marshy says, that once you're car is failed for its MOT, it becomes un roadworthy. Its an offence to drive an unroadworthy vehicle so you cant drive it again untill the defects are corrected
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It did not suddenly become unroadworthy at the point of failing the test, clearly it must have been was unroadworthy some time before this. What this means in practice is that every car that ever fails an MOT has very likely been driven whilst unroadworthy, hundreds of thousands of them a year. Whether you are wise to carry on driving would obviously depend on the actual faults, having a blocked washer jet is unlikely to attract the attention of the plod, but driving with 4 bald tyres and bits of bodywork hanging off is not a good idea.
 
MrLOL said:
how is any copper who pulls you going to know if its fixed or not ? you can say it is, but how does he know if you've changed discs and pads or not ?

once you have it fixed, you have to take a retest. What he said still stands.
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You don't have to get a retest provided your origional MOT certificate is still valid I don't understand how you can find this such a difficult thing to understand, as for prooving it to the plod if it becomes necessary which it shouldn't becasue the copper is going to have no knowledge that your breaks were/are a bit iffy or any other non obvious fault either A) Show him the reciept for the work\part or B) Demonstrate that the problem in question is not a problem ie turn your lights on or wash your windows etc etc etc.

Marshy's comments were plain and simple not true, just because he is a Don and has been here forever doesn't mean you have to believe every word he says.
 
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ive re-read the clause again, thining i must be missing something

and this bit

If you intend to use your vehicle on the road you should have it repaired and retested before the existing test validity expires"
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i just read as needing a retest. But crucially, it says you need to re-test before the validity expires

i suppose you're right. how can its validity expire if failing the test has already expired it ?
 
My 96k 1.8L V reg Mondeo passed with just the number plate bulbs needing replaced (the screws had rusted away so the MOT station had to drill them out by the looks of things)

I got an advisory that I will probably need the brake pipes replaced sometime this year but apart from that the mechanic there commented on the good overall condition of the car. Considering it is a bit of a mess cosmetically (scratched bumpers and paintwork, rear upholstery peaking out) he must mean mechanically. Nice to hear, but I have in the last two years replaced the thermostat housing, droplinks, wishbones, a temperature sensor and changed the oil every 10k (of mostly motorway miles). I like to think I've taken care of it mechanically.

I also have to say I was a little concerned by the assertion that any MOT Fail will invalidate your current MOT as I was planning on a driving tonight and using the remaining two weeks to leisurely get any work done.
 
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When my MG failed due to bad headlight pattern (needed a whole new headlight - £200 - ouch!) I was advised that I could continue to drive it for 14 (or 7) days (IIRC) before a retest was compulsory

You're given a grace period to fix the problems found before the retest.
 
New tank is on. Guy only charged me £45 to fit it too! Bargain!

Been putting some RedEx in with the fuel and have re-gapped the spark plugs... seems to be idling about 100rpm lower when warm and seems smoother off boost too. Going to change the thermostat and coolant temp sensor tomorrow and that should *hopefully* sort the emissions out.

Sorting the handbrake out tomorrow along with the welding and then going in for the re-test Saturday morning. It's not cost half as much as I first thought it would when I first read the fail sheet.

Fingers crossed :)
 
Surely if the tank was leaking it wouldn't have been pressurising properly so it would run a bit off anyway?
 
Hmmm, not sure.

Gapped the plugs and put redex in the tank yesterday and seemed to be running better after a *few* miles of hard driving.
 
Sorry to hear about the fail andy if your having emissions problems my mechanic uses Forte treatments on the car every service im particular the Advanced Motor Flush and the Advanced Gas Treatment worked wonders on my paseo and on the 200 when i first got it. They are ment for trade only but you can pick them up from a well known auction site.

Daz
 
M0T said:
Surely if the tank was leaking it wouldn't have been pressurising properly so it would run a bit off anyway?
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Tanks shouldn't pressurise. The noise you sometimes hear is air rushing into the tank as it sometimes is under vacuum (sealed container that fuel is being drawn from)

The fuel pump and fuel regulator will ensure the correct fuel pressure reaches the engine.
 
It could be worse. I've just managed to put my car in for MOT 6 weeks early because I didn't read the certificate properly (I was so sure it was due in March that I didn't notice the word April).

On the plus side it passed with no advisories, not bad for a rubbish car.
 
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