Speeding

That sucks, Basically because whenever I have seen this happen they typically do it with little publicity and change the limit to 30 simply by unbolting the 40 lollipops.

Of course cue the Talivan a week later to "Enforce" the new limit.:mad:

People who are regular users of the road just dont see it coming...

nearly got caught out with something similar on a road here recently

they've moved a 30-60 limit about 200m up the road

because now the 30 just continues now - and no repeaters are required - they just moved the National Speedlimit sign

no signs to say speed limit had changed - I can't even find any record of the change on the council website (normally speed limit changes are listed and debated)
 
The best bit about speed limit changes is that suddenly a speed you may have safely and legally done for years and years could, overnight, get you banned :eek:

This is particularly the case where they extend 30 limits further out into once NSL areas. Because nobody has any sympathy for those who'd do 60 in a 30, right?

I am noticing this a lot lately - where before I could usually make an educated 'guess' as to what the speed limit was on any road I was on, I now find it more and more difficult to do this because increasingly speed limits bear little resemblance to road type. It's making me really wish I had speed limit display on my car.

50 limits I find are particularly bizarre. I can't ever recall driving along a road with a 50 limit and thinking 'This feels right'. It's either too fast for the road and you wonder why it isn't a 40 or you wrack your brains trying to understand why it isn't NSL.
 
yeah - in this case TWFox - on querying it with someone else - the speed limit had changed 3 days before

I know you don't need repeaters for 30 - but surely it makes sense when a speed limit has been in place for like 20+ years - at least have a few temp signs up for say a month
 
Exactly, I don't get it. Surely the aim behind reducing a speed limit is to... slow traffic down. Which signs will do! You WANT people to be clear it's a 30!
 
Exactly, I don't get it. Surely the aim behind reducing a speed limit is to... slow traffic down. Which signs will do! You WANT people to be clear it's a 30!
No you want people to get cought speeding so you can gain and revenue from it.
Worst ones from my POV are the 20 zones. I can't stand them.
 
TBH a lot of the time these kind of systems are automated (a machine reads the paper). Just tick the box for the course and maybe it will go through, maybe it won't. They will only get back to you if you can't do it, so what's to lose?

But yea, they started extending 30mph zones on some main roads through villages near me. Then sticking up average speed cameras. Not sure it's working to well, because one day one of the 3 cameras was just missing. Then the post vanished, then another one appeared a bit further on, now I think that camera has vanished too. I did have a chuckle at the thought of someone robbing them :P
 
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Wouldn't matter what he was wearing if you were doing the speed limit, you were nearly 50% over the limit and it's the coppers fault for wearing black :eek:

My point is that if they really cared about 'saving lives due to speeding offences' then they would actively position themselves in visible locations as a deterrent, not hide at the bottom of a hill in non-reflective clothing at 11pm at night pointing a laser gun at the top of the hill.

I'm all for speed cameras in safety hot spots, but this was a purely money making exercise.
 
I've read a couple of articles about people's insurance premiums rising even if they have been on a safety awareness course.

My insurance renewal is due next week.
 
I nearly got caught last night, in an area I've never driven in before coming from a NSL zone (50mph in a minibus) into a built up area with 20mph on a large sign as you enter, but 30mph painted on the roads??!?!?
I slowed to 20 just in case and surprise! there was a donutvan parked just around the corner zapping people.
 
I've read a couple of articles about people's insurance premiums rising even if they have been on a safety awareness course.

My insurance renewal is due next week.
I've never been asked if I've attended a Speed awareness course when taking out a policy, let alone charged extra for attending one in 2014
 
I've read a couple of articles about people's insurance premiums rising even if they have been on a safety awareness course.

My insurance renewal is due next week.
Some insurers (Admiral Group are one I know of) ask if you've been on a SAC, but I don't know if it affects the premium.
 
My point is that if they really cared about 'saving lives due to speeding offences' then they would actively position themselves in visible locations as a deterrent, not hide at the bottom of a hill in non-reflective clothing at 11pm at night pointing a laser gun at the top of the hill.

I'm all for speed cameras in safety hot spots, but this was a purely money making exercise.

Then you get to the top of the hill and lock it up because you see the reflective jacket, seen it happen so many times, lesson in this story is don't do over 40mph in a 30 zone, simples.

When I did my speed awareness course they said that by law they have to give ample notice of speed limit changes (there was about 6 people on my course caught at the same place) but I think this was 4 or 5 years ago now.
 
I've read a couple of articles about people's insurance premiums rising even if they have been on a safety awareness course.

My insurance renewal is due next week.

Don't tell them. It doesn't leave anything on your licence and as far as I know theres no central database they can check on. They can't just phone up whoever runs it and ask either, because of the data protection act.
 
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Don't tell them. It doesn't leave anything on your licence and the details aren't on a central database for them to check on. They can't just phone up whoever runs it and ask either, because of the data protection act.
Whilst that may be the case, if for some reason they found out they'll take your non-admission as a way to instantly void your insurance which is 10x worse.

It would be simpler to avoid an insurer who doesn't ask the question in the first place.
 
That is done on the police database, which is who the NIP comes from. The DVLA only get informed about the conviction after the fact. If you take the course there is no conviction.
 
That is done on the police database, which is who the NIP comes from. The DVLA only get informed about the conviction after the fact. If you take the course there is no conviction.
Yes, but I was addressing the comment you made about there being no central database for SAC's - there is. And insurance companies could check on this database if the need existed, just like they could check the DVLA databases.
 
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