***SPOILERS AHOY!!!*** Football 1st-5th Jan



Apparently Everton fans were singing "You're just a **** Seamus Coleman" when Bale was going off. :D :D
 
I watched match of the day last night, and the look on Roys face as those goals were going in!!1:D priceless.
 
skippi90 said:
Everton's fans seemed to spend a lot of the game booing everything we did. :confused:
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Did you watch the highlights on MOTD or were you there? If you were there then you must have seen the amount of things that went unnoticed by the ref.. Even Moyes had a word with him as he was walking down the tunnel at half time! The ref was the main cause of the booing!
 
sunama said:
Their aim therefore was to play for the draw.
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Small club mentality. Arsenal too have played quite a few games and yet still manage to play "attacking" football. Not a good enough excuse.

Manchester City, with the squad they've got and the players they have within that squad should be going in to every game attacking teams and looking to win, be that at Arsenal or Wolves or West Ham.

I think that's one of the big differences between City and their rivals, the winning mentality, that frame of mind. The god awful negative, defensive football Mancini forces them to play doesn't help either mind.

The team selections seem to just be defensive players and then Tevez and/or Johnson/Silva/Balotelli.

With those players the mind boggles as to why City are still playing so negative, dull, horrific football. Honestly, I'd rather watch Blackpool.

/rant.
 
Tummy said:
Small club mentality.
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Yes. Exactly. Remember, a club does not become a "big" club, overnight or over the course of 1 or 2 years. It takes years (even decades), of consistent success to be recognised as a "big" club.

After 2 years of heavy investment, Man City are still a small (or medium) club. They certainly are not on the same plane as Arsenal, Man Utd, Chelsea or Liverpool (note how I included the last 2 clubs, even though they are going through a bad patch - 1 bad season does not turn a major club into a small one, no matter how hard Hodgson tries ;)).

Give Man City another 2 years and I promise you, the mentality will change. What you are seeing now is just the beginning. Providing the funding is available, Man City will continue to improve and begin to attract top class players, who previously would've refused to join Man City, no matter how much they were paid (something which Kaka did a few months back).
 
stulid said:
Chelsea to not even qualify for Champions league:D
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Chelsea are too good, not to qualify for the CL. I rate Chelsea very highly and as a Man Utd fan, would much rather we battled Arsenal for the title than Chelsea.

Chelsea are just going through a bad patch. I would've said the same thing about Liverpool, however, bad patches don't usually last for 5 months. There is something more serious going on at Liverpool...namely a manager who needs to resign.
 
MOTD need to get rid of Alan Hansen as a pundit. Does he actually watch any football these days apart from the highlights on his own programme? It certainly didn't seem so from his proudly ignorant attitude at last summer's world cup.

Yes, BAE had a bad day but to say that he's been playing bad all season can only come from the mouth of someone who hasn't seen him play. He's been on exceptional form for all but 2-3 games this season and has made more interceptions than any other player in the PL this season. I also wonder how less effective Bale would be without BAE's range of passing.
 
sunama said:
Yes. Exactly. Remember, a club does not become a "big" club, overnight or over the course of 1 or 2 years. It takes years (even decades), of consistent success to be recognised as a "big" club.

After 2 years of heavy investment, Man City are still a small (or medium) club. They certainly are not on the same plane as Arsenal, Man Utd, Chelsea or Liverpool (note how I included the last 2 clubs, even though they are going through a bad patch - 1 bad season does not turn a major club into a small one, no matter how hard Hodgson tries ;)).

Give Man City another 2 years and I promise you, the mentality will change. What you are seeing now is just the beginning. Providing the funding is available, Man City will continue to improve and begin to attract top class players, who previously would've refused to join Man City, no matter how much they were paid (something which Kaka did a few months back).
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All that's very well and nice, but Chelsea managed to do it in a season with Mourihno, I'd say the problem with City is the manager.

How come it's taking City so long?
 
sunama said:
Yes. Exactly. Remember, a club does not become a "big" club, overnight or over the course of 1 or 2 years. It takes years (even decades), of consistent success to be recognised as a "big" club.

After 2 years of heavy investment, Man City are still a small (or medium) club. They certainly are not on the same plane as Arsenal, Man Utd, Chelsea or Liverpool (note how I included the last 2 clubs, even though they are going through a bad patch - 1 bad season does not turn a major club into a small one, no matter how hard Hodgson tries ;)).

Give Man City another 2 years and I promise you, the mentality will change. What you are seeing now is just the beginning. Providing the funding is available, Man City will continue to improve and begin to attract top class players, who previously would've refused to join Man City, no matter how much they were paid (something which Kaka did a few months back).
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Chelsea became a big club within a season, they won the league a year after abramovich bought the club. Liverpool are not going through a bad patch, they didnt even qualify for champions league last season and certainly wont this season. They have a middle of the table side bar gerrard and torres and I can't see this changing that much without massive investment.

Man City have already attracted the likes of tevez, dzecko, robinho, silva, ballotelli. Its pretty hard to argue a case that they are still in the honeymoon stage when they have had the money for a few seasons, have probably the strongest squad in the league player for player and can just splash the cash whenever they like.

I hope chelsea sort themselves out and buy a few players this window, arsenal are quality at the moment, was just a shame to see man city play for a draw. No one wants a team to do well when all they do is beat the small clubs and play for the safe option against anyone decent.
 
I think City have some good players and have a pretty decent squad, there's still a lot of dead wood, but seeing as they've thrown lots of money at players I doubt the players will want to move and be on less money.

I think City's lack of progress is down to the manager and the system he employs.
 
I really don't get this. One draw against Arsenal and we're not progressing? Second in the league (actual points not theoretical possible maybe ones), his first full season in charge with the chance to make the team his own. I think we're doing alright :confused: Quite a lot of positive press today too.
 
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