6 years
6 years since we won something, it was only 3-4 years ago we started aiming lower and somehow calling this a positive thing, or thats Wengers take on it.
I can't remember when it was our reserve team with maybe 2-3 first team members in, maybe only one, thrashed Sheffield Utd 6-0, its one of the best performances Arsenal has produced in years. I think it was before xmas in the 08/09 season, it seems to long ago to have been 09/10 season but I could be wrong. But its 3-4 years now since Wenger and Arsenal started treating the Carling Cup a bit more seriously and completely looking like a weakened team compared to the invincibles. For a couple years after that we continued with mostly 4-4-2, playing mostly attacking football and not getting scared and throwing in so many first team players into the "lesser" games.
To be fair, I can see where DM is coming from. With their squad, Arsenal should be competing for more than the Carling Cup.
It's quite scary how disjointed Arsenal look though if they lose Fabregas and RvP to injury at the same time. That's their biggest problem - they keep these two fit and they'll win trophies.
Not really, most teams can't compete in 4 cups, largely because late Jan/Feb and a bit of March become complete and utter mayhem. 5 years go we did come close in everything, now we don't have that squad. Diaby/Denilson/Song aren't good enough to drag a weakened team through a cup game, or drag a bench+reserve squad through a game against Wigan/West Ham/Brum. We can't really ever rest Fabregas as our system mostly relies on world class passes to play us in behind, without him the 4-5-1 looks an entire joke, which it is.
RVP is usually completely isolated and has been for 2 years(when fit) in this system. West Ham, Leeds, Wigan, before hand RVP was utter trash for 4-5 games, he scored 6 in 3 games against two of the bottom 3, and a championship side.
RVP is a great player, but 4-5-1 doesn't suit him in the slightest, it hasn't worked against any "big" teams and we won't win a "proper" cup playing like that.
Winning the carling cup literally won't mean anything, it won't mean a maturing squad, it won't mean experience, it won't mean we're closer to a CL cup, or a league win. If we played our strongest team in the carling cup every year for 6 years we'd probably have won it 3-4 times.