***SPOILERS*** Football 11th-13th Dec '10

Disciplinary breakdown of last 9 meetings (three seasons) between United and Arsenal: Yellows 40 (Utd 13, Ars 27), Reds 2 (Utd 1, Ars 1).

Interesting little factoid.
 
Azza said:
Yeah he was telling Torres to suck his penis...
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Wasn't this after Soto decided to try and kill N'gog, Lucas decided it was Barton and Torres, probably 40 yards up the pitch, decided to come and throw his weight around while Lucas was in Barton's face, then he walked away as soon as Barton walked towards Torres, then after someone got inbetween them Torres got all "tough guy , if he wasn't between us I'd kill you".



As for Twinblade, look at the Bale tackle again, the ball has nothing to do with it Bale wasn't fouled, plain and simple there wasn't contact, as I said he did a Gerrard which is while running perfectly fine he brought his right leg forward, there was nothing stopping him planting his foot and continueing on, at all, he just lifts his foot and goes down. He dived plain and simple.

AS for Arsenal if you'd read anything on these boards, I don't buy into the "Arsenal are poor little kids getting kicked off the park" mentality, years ago it was true, last few years, with Song/Denilson/Diaby around all hacking the crap out of the opposition I don't much care.

Yes Palacios last tackle didn't look great, he went down less than 5 minutes previously with essentially nothing wrong with him doing exactly the same thing and was fine seconds later. It might have been the Drogba "foul" which wasn't a foul in a million years.

As for Bale, its not about impact hurting then not hurting, people are dumb, anyone thats ever REALLY been hit or kicked will know, sometimes it will hurt instantly and for a very short time, sometimes you won't notice pain till a few seconds later, sometimes a huge hit just won't hurt, humans are weird like that.

The problem I had was Bale was banging around like his leg was broken and the SECOND he saw the ref wasn't giving a card he was absolutely fine, that second sat up and started yelling at the ref. Sometimes injuries are real, sometimes they are overplayed, sometimes they aren't its hard to know, but when the pain dissappears the second you don't see a card coming out, any sympathy from me is gone.
 
jakeke said:
"Szczęsny has confirmed to Polish journalists that he's playing for The Arsenal tonight against MUFC"

The definition of throwing somebody in at the deep end. I have confidence in him though!

Clichy apparently out too with a virus. Eboue at LB. ****.
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I would say Eboue at left back usually doesn't work, but he both, played very well there midweek and also put in a couple nice crosses and worked the wing very well.

Now we played a truly woeful team and in general played so badly they almost looked not completely rubbish but Eboue was one of the few I'd say who didn't look terrible.

The most promising thing is, he usually just doesn't work well on the left at all, making mistakes, mostly left wing, his crossing and the way he cuts inside he just was never any good at doing with his left foot.

If we play like we did(as a team) in Europe, we'll get thrashed. We need a hugely improved performance, I can't call the result, Utd have been either very very average/poor or exceptional this season(far more of the former). But Arsenal tend to either play very very well, or pretty god damned horrendously, neither team has an ounce of consistancy this season though Utd have managed to have consistancy in their results, or lack of losing.

6-7 years ago you could be sure both teams would be close to their best in maybe 8 out of 10 games, so you could assume two teams at their best and choose probably Utd, but no one in the league this year has that consistancy.

This year Arsenal could actually win it, but still won't win the league, though my head says they are going to lose.

Hell, we might finally get our revenge for them taking OUR unbeaten run and watch them go to crap.
 
After rumours that Berba is being benched and Anderson /Giggs are playing - this is the team Im going for

VDS

OShea/Rafael Rio Vidic Evra

Nani Fletcher Scholes Anderson Giggs

Rooney


I have a feeling Nasri will play on the left (to target who ever is RB) and even though its a home game, and who knows whether Fab will play or not - Ive got a feeling SAF will play 5 across the middle with Anderson asked to run the extra miles to support Rooney when necessary

(I cant see any combo of 4 - counting Carrick and Park - that could automatically match Arsenal in the middle. esp with PS's tackling :))

edit - To be fair Utd have won every home game apart from the first game of the season (against Newcastle) , and won 5 out of the last 7 in the PL home and away (including dire away draws to City and AV) - thats pretty consistant if you ask me
 
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I dont think Fabregas is quite fit enough to play although you never know...i just hope that if he isnt then Wenger rests him and lets him heal properly because bringing him back so soon after injury is just asking for trouble.
 
having to deal with AA, Nasri and VP on form is more than enough thanks - hope Cesc is fit for the weekend, but AW please give him a few more days to recuperate fully :D
 
FrankJH said:
edit - To be fair Utd have won every home game apart from the first game of the season (against Newcastle) , and won 5 out of the last 7 in the PL home and away (including dire away draws to City and AV) - thats pretty consistant if you ask me
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Eh? United won 3-0 against Newcastle on the opening day of the season :confused:

It's really hard to call tonight's game. If United play like they did against Valencia, Arsenal could win. On the other hand, if United play as well as they did against Blackburn, it could be a pretty comfortable victory. It's really difficult to call because neither side has been particularly convincing this season. I'm going to go with a narrow United win just because Arsenal's defence has looked shaky and I think Rooney will be on-form tonight and add to his excellent record against Arsenal.
 
FrankJH said:
having to deal with AA, Nasri and VP on form is more than enough thanks - hope Cesc is fit for the weekend, but AW please give him a few more days to recuperate fully :D
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LOL well tbh id rather have him fully fit rather than just shove him into the game as the last thing we need is Fabregas out long term with an injury.

I just dont get why our players get injured so easily and when injured are out for months ie RVP and Vermalen....although RVP is now fit but i imagine anytime soon he will be injured and again he will be out for quite some time:(...Vermalen is out long term and we do need him back asap as our defence is definitely suffering without him there.
 
Spawn said:
LOL well tbh id rather have him fully fit rather than just shove him into the game as the last thing we need is Fabregas out long term with an injury.

I just dont get why our players get injured so easily and when injured are out for months ie RVP and Vermalen....although RVP is now fit but i imagine anytime soon he will be injured and again he will be out for quite some time:(...Vermalen is out long term and we do need him back asap as our defence is definitely suffering without him there.
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Your players don't get more injured than any other teams, and its not unusual for someone to be out for months at a time (look at Hargreaves), the reason for the same player being injured again so soon is usually due to the initial injury, either it not being fully healed or the player putting more stress on the opposite leg or other muscles to compensate for the injured one.

Players get injured they aren't machines, i am currently injured myself (knee - 2 years now) from football and just fully recovered from a shoulder injury (weight lifting) and my left elbow/lower tricep has never healed for over 5 years (old weight lifting injury).

When you push your body to its limits, expect it to become injured.
 
Nerves kicking in. Man Utd supporting housemates not helping. Banter difficult when I don't entirely believe it myself.

Win you silly midget frenchmen.
 
Tough one to call this evening/afternoon. I think it really depends on what team turns up for Arsenal, if they play well they should stroll it judging by Man Utd's recent months. If the shaky Arsenal turn up, then they'll struggle.
 
Berba has to play, his scoring record with Rooney in the team this season is very impressive and in our last 'big' game at OT he scored a hat-trick against Liverpool expect more of the same

I hope we go;

VDS

Rafael
Ferdinand
Vidic
Evra

Nani
Fletcher
Scholes
Park

Rooney
Berbatov

3-0 :cool:
 
Can't predict this game at all, could end up as an easy win for either team or a high score draw. I've put a bet on Man Utd to come from behind and win, so that if it happens I can buy myself something to cheer me up
 
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