**SPOILERS** Football 26th Feb - 2nd Mar 2011
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I love how Rooney doing an elbow into another player whether being obstructed or not, it's a straight 3 match ban, turns into 'Saint Stevie is disgusting'.
What Rooney did was worse than Gattuso tbh. Oh and stevie should have had a 3 match ban for that I think, wasn't huge intent but he put an arm up to block him.
And there was no 'motd witch hunt' because it was a Monday night game.
Rooney will get away with it, bosingwa fully booted benayoun on the back, FA investigate, nothing happens, and he isn't even ingurlish.
What Rooney did was worse than Gattuso tbh. Oh and stevie should have had a 3 match ban for that I think, wasn't huge intent but he put an arm up to block him.
And there was no 'motd witch hunt' because it was a Monday night game.
Rooney will get away with it, bosingwa fully booted benayoun on the back, FA investigate, nothing happens, and he isn't even ingurlish.
Do NONE of you know the laws of the game?
The referee saw it, interpreted it and gave no card, if thats whats in his match report then FIFA article 77 prevents the FA giving any retrospective punishment what so ever to Rooney
I think the football forum should have an entrance exam before you can post TBQFH.
The referee saw it, interpreted it and gave no card, if thats whats in his match report then FIFA article 77 prevents the FA giving any retrospective punishment what so ever to Rooney
I think the football forum should have an entrance exam before you can post TBQFH.
Mhm just like Ben Thatcher eh?
Also Article 77 is a little more flexible than that:
Also Article 77 is a little more flexible than that:
(b) being the obvious one which they could justify retrospective action under, though it's somewhat dubious as to whether the addition of, for example, video evidence makes a referee's decision an 'obvious' error.
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Has the fact that McCarthy was trying to obstruct Rooney been debated?
All I've seen is Rooney be slated for elbowing him and then you and G|mp claim Gerrard chased Brown all game in an attempt to take his head off
Nobody claimed he chased him all game Barry, you have completely made that up, I was pointing out how being a 'disgusting human being' only works when you play for the opposition and not you're own players
Nobody's suggested that at all
This has all started because Rotty said Rooney was a disgusting example of a human being. We don't even know whether he was talking about the elbow incident, that's just 1 of several reasons why he might think that. You only have to look at a picture of Rooney to draw that conclusion
Yes we do, it was posted minutes after MoTD. If it was meant for anything else then it was massively coincidental!
You're not the brightest are you?
The MoTD witch hunt was last night following the Rooney elbow, nothing to do with Gerrard.
There wasn't huge intent? he put an arm up to block him?
Watch the video, he slams an elbow into the back of his head!
AHAHAHA
Oh dear.I think what Rooney did looked a bit dodgy, it could have been unintentional for all we know, you cant be 100% sure.
That Gerrard incident is considerably worse.
Rooney wasnt the only offender - totally correct
Was Rooney's action necessary, warranted, or anything other than violent and incredibly stupid? No
He shouldnt have been on the pitch after that point imo - complete and utter **** for doing anything like that.
While I think we need him for the Chelsea game (and how) as long as he gets his head together before then, I wouldnt mind him missing the Liverpool game because he always gets too wound up in those games imo and its not usually effective. (Of course there are probably other games to consider after the Liverpool one also)
(Is Rooney's winner in 2005 his only goal there for Utd?)
edit - I know camera angle can be everything in these kinds of instance, but I cant see how it could ever be seen to be unintentional. Yes McCarthy tries to block him, but WR jumps into the air (to get past) but there is a purposeful swing of him arm without question imo)
By the letter of the law you seem to be totally correct - I would wonder why its never been used before (with decisions like this the usual "if its noted in the refs report that incident was seen, then nothing can be done about it" is the standard responce. Yet according to the rule you stated , that phraise is never true........
Cant really be both (unless the FA never enforce what you are quoting......)
Genuinely intrigued by the connundrum is all
Majority of your post count wouldnt exist then lol
(and before any obvious come back - majority of mine have been technical of one kind or another
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Rooney obviously tried to get him out of the way but, like Gerrard, it was a flat arm across the guy's face, not a full on elbow with the arm at a right angle. Had he done that it would have been inexcusable, but as it was it's a nothing incident really. You see stuff like that happen in almost every game.
That Gerrard incident was only relevant at the time because it came so soon after the Ferdinand one that he was banned for.
That Gerrard incident was only relevant at the time because it came so soon after the Ferdinand one that he was banned for.
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Team news for us as follows from LFC site:
Reina, Johnson, Kelly, Carragher, Skrtel, Wilson, Lucas, Gerrard, Meireles, Kuyt, Suarez. Subs: Gulacsi, Kyrgiakos, Cole, Poulsen, Spearing, Maxi, Ngog.
Yay Kelly is back! Johnson on wing possibly? As he fails at RB and ive lost patience with him their for us now tbh
Reina, Johnson, Kelly, Carragher, Skrtel, Wilson, Lucas, Gerrard, Meireles, Kuyt, Suarez. Subs: Gulacsi, Kyrgiakos, Cole, Poulsen, Spearing, Maxi, Ngog.
Yay Kelly is back! Johnson on wing possibly? As he fails at RB and ive lost patience with him their for us now tbh
Just out of interest - if raising your hands to an opponant's face is an automatic red (even if there is no real force on the connection) - why is putting your arm across someone's face any better?
(apart from the obvious that Rooney was in the air at the time, so he didnt "raise" his arm)
(apart from the obvious that Rooney was in the air at the time, so he didnt "raise" his arm)
Majority of your post count wouldnt exist then lol
(and before any obvious come back - majority of mine have been technical of one kind or another
Other than virtually everybody coming round to agree with my point of view over most of the "controversial" things I've said you are 100% correct.
They dont take retrospective action if the referee notes it in his report because it undermines the referee, if they corrected the "obvious errors" everytime the referee made one, they would spend 60 hours a week, every week overturning wrongly issued yellow and red cards, giving out retrospective yellows and reds left right and center, and giving three match bans till the cows come home.
The issue of appealing sending offs is different, because the referee can in some instances over react to an incident, which is why clubs are allowed to appeal.
Looking at that team, I'd expect Johnson at LB
Wilson certainly getting a run of games.
Because it isnt an automatic red, same as winning the ball doesnt stop something being a foul, same as tripping someone up in the area isnt always a penalty, same as being the "last man" doesnt mean you have to be sent off for a foul, same as putting a challenge in on the keeper isnt straight away free kick, same as using foul language at a referee isnt an offence etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc etc.
I'd certainly agree that he can be, I cant state it categorically as he could be a decent bloke and a laugh off the pitch. He definitely has his moments on the pitch though, having said that, he is still a dick and a nonce that I would rather have in my team than play against
Yes, the only thing up for debate though is whether the term "massive" should be used between the letter a and the word dick in that sentence.
Nobody claimed he chased him all game Barry, you have completely made that up, I was pointing out how being a 'disgusting human being' only works when you play for the opposition and not you're own players
Yes we do, it was posted minutes after MoTD. If it was meant for anything else then it was massively coincidental!
You used to have sense of humour.
AHAHAHA
I think what Rooney did looked a bit dodgy, it could have been unintentional for all we know, you cant be 100% sure.
That Gerrard incident is considerably worse.
Shockingly embarrassing
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Obvious in that instance means mistaken identity, I assume.