***SPOILERS!!*** Football 29 Jan -3rd Feb 2011

Why does everyone believe that source lol?
No quotes, no names, typical nothing story. Mind you the world has an agenda against cesc so we should defend him.
 
Why do you keep saying that? You're not an Arsenal fan are you?

I don't know about an agenda but some of the stuff recently has been pathetic. Martinez suggesting Cesc dived for the pen (clear penalty), the Huddersfield players moaning as all 16 of them couldn't take a Fabregas shirt home, Moyes being a girl etc
 
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Actually, the worst of it is, even if all of it is true, is it make him a bit of a mouthy **** who occasionally uses some gamesmanship. Yet the way people go on, you'd think he was Joey Barton.

I bet if Barcelona weren't good enough to win every game comfortably, Messi would give off to the officials at times too. He's handled the ball into the net before, don't you know.
 
jakeke said:
Why do you keep saying that? You're not an Arsenal fan are you?

I don't know about an agenda but some of the stuff recently has been pathetic. Martinez suggesting Cesc dived for the pen (clear penalty), the Huddersfield players moaning as all 16 of them couldn't take a Fabregas shirt home, Moyes being a girl etc
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1. That rag generally makes up ****.
2. People on here sound like Arsene Wenger, arsenal have been diving and Wenger asking for more and more protection when his players constantly kick others and don't you have a pretty garbage disciplinary record anyways?

I'm sure Martinez etc say he diced after Theo and Bendter in the FA cup, nevermind the 13 other penos you've had this season.
 
Yes, 13 penalties, 13 dives. The rest of your unrelated rant was .. weird.

Sorry, I didn't know you were one of those fans, I do now and won't bother you again!
 
jakeke said:
Yes, 13 penalties, 13 dives. The rest of your unrelated rant was .. weird.

Sorry, I didn't know you were one of those fans, I do now and won't bother you again!
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Yes I clearly meant 13 penalties 13 dives.
The rest of my 'rant' was related, you complain about other managers bitching about your players, well they might do it due to how your manager couldn't be more hypocritical and feels his players are unfairly treated when Arsenal are up there with some of the worst in terms of diving, kicking out or ridiculous challenges.

Didn't realise you were one of 'those' fans who thinks the world is against arsenal. Swings in roundabouts.
 
Azza said:
lol at the Moyes, ******.
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Much better:)....no need to thank me either:p:D.

After the crap Moyes has come out with, sore loser whose team should have never had that goal stand as it was...ive lost all respect for him....a ****** indeed.
 
Purdy said:
Yes I clearly meant 13 penalties 13 dives.
The rest of my 'rant' was related, you complain about other managers bitching about your players, well they might do it due to how your manager couldn't be more hypocritical and feels his players are unfairly treated when Arsenal are up there with some of the worst in terms of diving, kicking out or ridiculous challenges.

Didn't realise you were one of 'those' fans who thinks the world is against arsenal. Swings in roundabouts.
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We weren't talking about Wenger, but he is a hypocrit, same as every manager :confused:

You're the only one to mention 'the world is against Arsenal' (about 4 times, it's becoming bizarre how much you want it to be known) :confused: I just think that there have been some idiotic things happening recently
 
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Andy Scott fired as Brentford manager, touch harsh, got the team promoted to league one, did very well last year, ok, 7 games without a win and beaten several times by teams below us and dangerously near relegation. But this is a club with no money, never any money, not a huge squad, and injury issues meaning we couldn't score.

Though, meh, maybe it was time, apparently Forster has taken over termporarily which is weird. I remember watching Scott/Forster so long ago at Brentford as a kid, Scott brings Forster back(who still has a magic touch) and then fire Scott and put Forster in charge.

HOpefully they can put a few wins together and stay up :(
 
Purdy said:
Yes I clearly meant 13 penalties 13 dives.
The rest of my 'rant' was related, you complain about other managers bitching about your players, well they might do it due to how your manager couldn't be more hypocritical and feels his players are unfairly treated when Arsenal are up there with some of the worst in terms of diving, kicking out or ridiculous challenges.

Didn't realise you were one of 'those' fans who thinks the world is against arsenal. Swings in roundabouts.
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This isn't normal bitching about players though is it. Theres "player X went in a bit hard on my guy", " that was a clear dive and everyone saw it", "he did a two footed tackle and I think it was a red card ". Thats commenting on the game and frankly fairplay.

But "Cesc spit at us, off camera, and please focus on that rather than my team flirting with relegation", or " Cesc said something, i'm creating intrigue by not saying what it was, it was disgusting, and thats what you should all focus on".

As said, LOADS of stuff has gone on before, did Fergie comment on "pizza gate", no it happened, reports leaked out, and players from both teams were involved. Theres always stuff going on in tunnels, rarely if ever do players/managers talk about it.

Theres clearly a VERY different level between accusing someone of that kind of behaviour off camera, and commenting on something everyone saw.

Seriously also, the Huddersfield thing, people having a go at you because you don't go around with 16 shirts on you so everyone can get one, its pathetic, and now being used amongst a list of other reasons for people to attack Cesc, its ridiculous.

If Moyes had only said "that tackle on Arteta was bad" no one would give a crap, for the record I started watching about 10 minutes in and didn't see it.

Or are we suggesting the next time Arsenal lose its completely fine for Wenger to just make up crap about the opposition and use the cover of "if happened in the tunnel so conviniently no one can easily dismiss it right now" to distract from a poor performance.
 
jakeke said:
We weren't talking about Wenger, but he is a hypocrit, same as every manager :confused:
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The likes of Wenger, Redknapp, or Holloway would top any managers' hypocracy chart, but at the same time I wouldn't consider Martinez, Bruce, etc., hypocrites in the slightest.

Managers are like every other walk of life; some ****s, some not; hate the game, not the playaaaa
 
drunkenmaster said:
As said, LOADS of stuff has gone on before, did Fergie comment on "pizza gate", no it happened, reports leaked out, and players from both teams were involved. Theres always stuff going on in tunnels, rarely if ever do players/managers talk about it.
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Fergie only ever comments on potential title contenders and the Scousers. Arsenal aren't on his radar anymore, hence why he and Wenger haven't torn strips out of each other in a while actually.
 
guyfawkes5 said:
The likes of Wenger, Redknapp, or Holloway would top any managers' hypocracy chart, but at the same time I wouldn't consider Martinez, Bruce, etc., hypocrites in the slightest.

Managers are like every other walk of life; some ****s, some not; hate the game, not the playaaaa
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Dunno about that, I think they're all remarkably similar but we see more of some than others

It was only last week Bruce was bemoaning Darren Bent's lack of loyalty when he left 3 clubs in quick succession very recently. If you listen out for it, it's there almost all the time
 
How is saying Bent's a mercenary hypocritical?

Given the era Brucie hails from I'd say his ethics surround clubs may well be different.
 
You followed his managerial career at all?? He defined mercenary (in manager terms) for a while, hopping from once place to the next to suit his own agenda
 
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