Spring Budget 2023

Interestingly I wonder if labour would reverse this change if they are in power in 2 years time. Nothing is normally set in stone when it comes to government policy.
 
Devilman said:
I fail to see why so many people (presumably most of them parents) seem to think it's EVERYONE ELSE's responsibility to help pay for THEIR kids?

YOU made the choice to have children, YOU should pay for their childcare.

Why the hell should you keep getting handout after handout while those who choose NOT to have kids just get screwed over paying for everyone elses?

In the old days the choice was simple... If you chose not to have kids, you typically ended up with much higher disposable income to spend on yourself...

Now because everyone is getting handouts from the Government, those who chose not to have kids are subsidizing those of you who did, it's a ***** disgrace.

Pay for your own damn kids or don't have them. Take some bloody responsibility in your lives.
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I'm not expecting anyone to pay for my kids but I'm not going to turn down free childcare. I'd be an idiot to pass it up.

So I suppose what I'm really saying is, thank you for your generous help :D
 
Devilman said:
Our current system is lop-sided in that it almost discourages those professional working families from having children, while enabling those "baby factory" types.
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And yet you seem to be vehemently against providing the support needed to encourage those professional working families from having children :confused:

Do you think free childcare is of any concern to/going to be used by the "baby factory" types who have no intention of going to work anyway?
 
Junglist said:
I'm not expecting anyone to pay for my kids but I'm not going to turn down free childcare. I'd be an idiot to pass it up.

So I suppose what I'm really saying is, thank you for your generous help :D
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Indeed, I can't and wouldn't blame anyone for taking advantage of the current setup, it would be foolish not to.

I just wish there was a *better* setup for current and prospective parents.
 
Some good stuff in there - improved draught beer relief, nuclear, childcare, funding for mental health and skeletal issues, possibly the getting disabled people into work stuff - but, as always, I'm sure there will be gremlins hiding in the details.

squerble said:
More children for fewer staff, great.
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The UK has had unnecessarily strict rules about this. Most of Europe has less strict rules without problems, and it causes childcare to be correspondingly expensive in the UK.
 
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So massive tax cut (or top up depending on how you phrase it) for those that can afford to put more than £40k a year into their pensions. Whilst basic rate tax payers only get a 25% top up.

Getting rid of lifetime allowance made sense, but allowing very high earner to save a further 42% (or 70% topup) on 20k of income is silly.
 
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How does the pub draught freeze matter, when supermarket booze is still only 25% of the cost of pubs? Making supermarket booze slightly more expensive, doesn't make already expensive pub drinks more affordable.
 
krooton said:
How does the pub draught freeze matter, when supermarket booze is still only 25% of the cost of pubs? Making supermarket booze slightly more expensive, doesn't make already expensive pub drinks more affordable.
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No, but it'll increase the profits of those pubs left in business...
 
muon said:
So massive tax cut (or top up depending on how you phrase it) for those that can afford to put more than £40k a year into their pensions. Whilst basic rate tax payers only get a 25% top up.

Getting rid of lifetime allowance made sense, but allowing very high earner to save a further 42% on 20k of income is silly.
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Cons for you.
 
We're planning a 2nd child next year with the view my wife would have returned to work once child was 12 months old and we'd just absorb the costs, no matter how eye-watering. This is some quite nice news for a change, might have to have some creative snu snu to get the dates to line up with September 2025.
 
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muon said:
So massive tax cut (or top up depending on how you phrase it) for those that can afford to put more than £40k a year into their pensions. Whilst basic rate tax payers only get a 25% top up.

Getting rid of lifetime allowance made sense, but allowing very high earner to save a further 42% (or 70% topup) on 20k of income is silly.
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Not really. Workers in later life are far more likely to be in a position to make greater pension contribution. Similarly, those in later working life are more likely to a have salary that can allow high pension contributions.

It will help, to an extent, those making pension contribution later in life so they are less reliant on state pension.
 
EddScott said:
Not really. Workers in later life are far more likely to be in a position to make greater pension contribution. Similarly, those in later working life are more likely to a have salary that can allow high pension contributions.

It will help, to an extent, those making pension contribution later in life so they are less reliant on state pension.
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Or more likely less reliant on state resources for their end-of-life care.
 
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