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Because most parents placing their kids in care either cant afford to pay anything more or dont want to. As I said, the vast majority of kids are only there because of the free hours.
Without them, they wouldn't be there and the parents wouldnt be at work.

Also do you know how much it costs to employ? Its much more than what staff are paid. Min wage employment costs before operating costs are upwards of £15 per hour
Because I was paying £7/hr for childcare, then £7.50 and as of 1st April - £8/hr. And I know for sure that of the 10 or so staff, 5 or 6 are youfff on appreticechips etc. and the owners husband is on pay roll, her sis/niece etc...

They now rent a school premises at ultra low cost too...

Nurseries not being profitable is a cop out IMHO. Maybe it is region dependant.
 
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Oh is Hunt a 'leftie' now? Pretty sure you're just trolling again.

Hunt has to run the actual economy based on tools and money available due to the prevailing circumstances rather more than ideology.

Lefties love taxes so stands to reason they would also love this does it not?
 
One thing I've never had to look in to, but why is child care so expensive in this country compared to a lot of others?
 
Because I was paying £7/hr for childcare, then £7.50 and as of 1st April - £8/hr. And I know for sure that of the 10 or so staff, 5 or 6 are youfff on appreticechips etc. and the owners husband is on pay roll, her sis/niece etc...

They now rent a school premises at ultra low cost too...

Nurseries not being profitable is a cop out IMHO. Maybe it is region dependant.

Yea, London is a bit skewed on what they can charge, hell I had parents scream blue murder when I was putting fees up and we were only charging around 3.50 - 4.50 / hr at the time, dependent on the age group (this was about 5 yrs ago)
 
lol what do you think the 30 free hours equates to?

Which will be great for parents when in Sept 2025 when it applies to all pre-school children and not only for 3-4 y/o's whose parents meet certain criteria as it is currently, until then we still have some of the most expensive Early Years Education in the world due to lack of Govt subsidy.
 
Before subsidised child care became a thing and paid public nurseries became commonplace circa 1989, one wonders how an equable family life could have existed previously.

Perhaps women saw time with their child as welcome then, and not a burden to their social and ecomic aspirations, to be delegated to strangers, in favour of quasi affordable homes, clothes, cars and holidays, often paid for on barely managed credit.
 
Which will be great for parents when in Sept 2025 when it applies to all pre-school children and not only for 3-4 y/o's whose parents meet certain criteria as it is currently, until then we still have some of the most expensive Early Years Education in the world due to lack of Govt subsidy.

So its only actually the most expensive (citation needed lol) for parents in certain circumstances because for the rest it is subsidised by free hours AND there is a plan in place to extend those free places once more nursery spaces become available?
 
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Before subsidised child care became a thing and paid public nurseries became commonplace circa 1989, one wonders how an equable family life could have existed previously.

Perhaps women saw time with their child as welcome then, and not a burden to their social and ecomic aspirations, to be delegated to strangers, in favour of quasi affordable homes, clothes, cars and holidays, often paid for on barely managed credit.

Maybe you should find yourself a chart comparing the change in cost of housing (either bought or rented) and cost of living compared to the change in wages. That might help you with your question.
It used to be possible for a family to survive on a single person's working class wage.
 
Perhaps women saw time with their child as welcome then, and not a burden to their social and ecomic aspirations, to be delegated to strangers

I mean, it's not surprising you have an antiquated and uninformed view on this subject, since you do with most others, but since having been a manager of a large nursery previously and with my partner who owns and runs an outstanding Nursery, I can confidently say you have no idea what you are talking about :)

I appreciate your ignorant view, like many others ITT, is because you don't know much about child development, why would you you are skilled in other areas, but I would advocate all children should go to a nursery setting. Working or non-working parents. This whole framing of the "childcare*" being just so parents can get back to work is just so sad, as no-one even talks about or cares about what is best for the children, which is what it should be about.

Believe me, the parents main job is to provide a stable, loving home for their children, but if you want the best out of their development then send them to a Nursery. This isn't a slight on parents, but you wouldn't expect them to know what's best for child development, why would they? And for all the will in the world they can't just be there dedicating their time all day every day to the child like the people paid to do it as a job can.

You would be amazed at the difference in stages of development between a child that has been at Nursery from an early age and one who comes for the first time when they are 3 to get their "free" hours, it's just night and day.

* I think this all stems from the antiquated view point that "childcare" with nurserys is just "baby sitting". They just look after the child while the parent goes out to work. They don't, it's now called Early Years Education for a reason, as we have now found, the first two years are some of the most important in setting the foundations of a childs whole future development.

I always use the analogy that anyone can grow a plant or some fruit and veg. Put it in the soil, water it feed it and it'll grow. But if you want the best out of that plant, to get award winning fruit and veg, then it takes a lot of knowledge, skill and effort.
 
What’s also annoying is that it’s nearly impossible to calculate the right amount to put into your pension to fall out of the trap, whilst still earning enough to pay the bills and to look after one’s family.
Here we have someone earning six figures moaning they don’t earn enough to pay the bills.

Riggghhttt…
 
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