Star Swarm - Oxide bench thread

Ian Evey · 8 Feb 2014 at 17:11

I would like to know the CPU and gpu usage more than the actual fps figure, it's all fine showing mantle doubling performance but if a cpu and gpu are not even breaking a sweat then what it shows is how poorly made and optimised the engine is.

humbug · 8 Feb 2014 at 17:44

Gregster said:
Like I told you in the other thread and a couple of posts up, the rules are simple. Show me one person who has followed the rules and I will add them. Now give it a rest.

Wow, i don't understand why your having a go at me?

Rusty suggested we talk about it in here so thats what i'm doing.

So, re- my suggestion...

humbug said:
Rules? are they all breaching those rules? Thats a shame. did you explain to them they are breaching the rules?

It seems members are missing your rules as it hasn't been updated for a huge chunk, for most of the thread, can i suggest you explain again where people are going wrong?

It seems a shame to leave it as it is, clearly people aren't understanding your rules.

How about it?

Gregster · 8 Feb 2014 at 18:52

humbug · 8 Feb 2014 at 18:56

Gregster said:
Like I told you in the other thread and a couple of posts up, the rules are simple. Show me one person who has followed the rules and I will add them. Now give it a rest.

I don't know how they breached the rules. obviously very few in here do as there are a lot left out.

I made a submission, could you tell me how i breached the rules?

LtMatt · 8 Feb 2014 at 18:59

Maybe relax the rules a bit Greg, its just a bit of fun after all and not a competitive bench like firestrike, etc.

humbug · 8 Feb 2014 at 19:01

^^^^ +1, It does seem a bit much. a bit OTT, no disrespect Greg

Gregster said:
Also, all entries MUST have your CPU and your GPU and be titled "Official entry" Any entry will be ignored if it doesn't follow that criteria. That is starting from 3pm Saturday 1st Feb 2014.

right. ok so if i add "Official entry" to this http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=25774644&postcount=173

All is well?

Tonester0011 · 8 Feb 2014 at 19:03

Relax the rules?

You have to add "official entry" to your post along with GPU/CPU, that's pretty damn relax to be frank.

andybird123 · 8 Feb 2014 at 19:05

Official Entry

4930K @ 4.6ghz, single Titan@Stock
avg 24.77

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Oxide Games
Star Swarm Stress Test - ©2013
C:\Users\Andy\Documents\Star Swarm\Output_14_02_08_1838.txt
Version 1.00
02/08/2014 18:38
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== Hardware Configuration =================================
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN
CPU: GenuineIntel
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4930K CPU @ 3.40GHz
Physical Cores: 6
Logical Cores: 12
Physical Memory: 17095229440
Allocatable Memory: 8796092891136
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== Configuration ==========================================
API: DirectX
Scenario: ScenarioCustom.csv
User Input: Disabled
Resolution: 1920x1080
Fullscreen: True
GameCore Update: 16.6 ms
Bloom Quality: High
PointLight Quality: High
ToneCurve Quality: High
Glare Overdraw: 16
Shading Samples: 64
Shade Quality: Mid
Deferred Contexts: Disabled
Temporal AA Duration: 16
Temporal AA Time Slice: 2
Detailed Frame Info: Off
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== Results ================================================
Test Duration: 360 Seconds
Total Frames: 8918

Average FPS: 24.77
Average Unit Count: 3879
Maximum Unit Count: 5282
Average Batches/MS: 938.93
Maximum Batches/MS: 1700.31
Average Batch Count: 37298
Maximum Batch Count: 91665
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Also, deferred contexts enabled, avg. 33.55 36% improvement?
no idea why this is disabled by default, unless purely to maximise the apparent effect of mantle

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Oxide Games
Star Swarm Stress Test - ©2013
C:\Users\Andy\Documents\Star Swarm\Output_14_02_08_1846.txt
Version 1.00
02/08/2014 18:46
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== Hardware Configuration =================================
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN
CPU: GenuineIntel
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4930K CPU @ 3.40GHz
Physical Cores: 6
Logical Cores: 12
Physical Memory: 17095229440
Allocatable Memory: 8796092891136
===========================================================

== Configuration ==========================================
API: DirectX
Scenario: ScenarioCustom.csv
User Input: Disabled
Resolution: 1920x1080
Fullscreen: True
GameCore Update: 16.6 ms
Bloom Quality: High
PointLight Quality: High
ToneCurve Quality: High
Glare Overdraw: 16
Shading Samples: 64
Shade Quality: Mid
Deferred Contexts: Enabled
Temporal AA Duration: 16
Temporal AA Time Slice: 2
Detailed Frame Info: Off
===========================================================

== Results ================================================
Test Duration: 360 Seconds
Total Frames: 12080

Average FPS: 33.55
Average Unit Count: 4019
Maximum Unit Count: 5360
Average Batches/MS: 1281.50
Maximum Batches/MS: 2838.96
Average Batch Count: 36537
Maximum Batch Count: 86976
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and finally DC enabled and Motion Blur disabled avg. 79.83fps - 222% improvement - so mantle allows a heavily gimped motion blur effect, whoop whoop

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Oxide Games
Star Swarm Stress Test - ©2013
C:\Users\Andy\Documents\Star Swarm\Output_14_02_08_1856.txt
Version 1.00
02/08/2014 18:56
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== Hardware Configuration =================================
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN
CPU: GenuineIntel
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4930K CPU @ 3.40GHz
Physical Cores: 6
Logical Cores: 12
Physical Memory: 17095229440
Allocatable Memory: 8796092891136
===========================================================

== Configuration ==========================================
API: DirectX
Scenario: ScenarioCustom.csv
User Input: Disabled
Resolution: 1920x1080
Fullscreen: True
GameCore Update: 16.6 ms
Bloom Quality: High
PointLight Quality: High
ToneCurve Quality: High
Glare Overdraw: 16
Shading Samples: 64
Shade Quality: Mid
Deferred Contexts: Enabled
Temporal AA Duration: 16
Temporal AA Time Slice: 2
Detailed Frame Info: Off
===========================================================

== Results ================================================
Test Duration: 360 Seconds
Total Frames: 28739

Average FPS: 79.83
Average Unit Count: 4587
Maximum Unit Count: 5931
Average Batches/MS: 571.08
Maximum Batches/MS: 2182.88
Average Batch Count: 6617
Maximum Batch Count: 15798
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SLI testing to follow, edit: SLI testing not to follow, made bum all difference

LtMatt · 8 Feb 2014 at 19:06

Tonester0011 said:
Relax the rules?
You have to add "official entry" to your post along with GPU/CPU, that's pretty damn relax to be frank.

Just noticed that there have been a lot of posts and only two entries posted in the OP. I don't care either way, so no need to get your nose out of shape.

Tonester0011 · 8 Feb 2014 at 19:11

Official Entry.

LtMatt said:
Just noticed that there have been a lot of posts and only two entries posted in the OP. I don't care either way, so no need to get your nose out of shape.

I'm guessing that's because people failed to read to the OP?
You're already typing you post, adding in your CPU/GPU with your copied text from the bench results, how hard is it to add "official entry" to the title?

Maybe it's not my nose out of shape?

LtMatt · 8 Feb 2014 at 19:19

Tonester0011 said:
I'm guessing that's because people failed to read to the OP?
You're already typing you post, adding in your CPU/GPU with your copied text from the bench results, how hard is it to add "official entry" to the title?

Maybe it's not my nose out of shape?

Just a suggestion to save the thread from failure.

andybird123 · 8 Feb 2014 at 20:02

just a suggestion, but have 3 tables for results, DirectX (Extreme preset) and DirectX (Extreme with Deferred Contexts Enabled) as well as Mantle

I couldn't care less about motion blur but it'll just muddy the waters fiddling with it now

Gregster · 8 Feb 2014 at 20:04

LtMatt said:
Just a suggestion to save the thread from failure.

I am not sure why you and Humbug are getting all worked up about it. If you both bothered to look, there is entry after entry and I have no idea if they were run with the file in the OP or just a random file. Most of them don't even say what GPU was being used. It is nigh on impossible to work out, hence the reason for adding "official entry" to the title (like Andybird has) and that makes it much easier for me to sort out.

Relax the rules? It isn't that hard and I am not requiring GPU-Z/CPU-Z screen shots and a screenie of the text file or a video of the run.

Ohh and how is your Tomb Raider bench thread going Matt?

Rusty0611 · 8 Feb 2014 at 20:21

andybird123 · 8 Feb 2014 at 20:22

humbug said:
CPU: Phenom II x6 1090T @ 3.2Ghz (Stock)
GPU: 7870XT @ 1100 / 1550

DirectX 22.7
Mantle 35.5

Mantle performance increase +56%

andybird123 said:
4930K @ 4.6ghz, single Titan@Stock
DX avg 24.77

deferred contexts enabled: 33.55 = 36% improvement

so a 4.6ghz latest intel chip plus titan equals a 4 year old AMD 3.2ghz with 7870, and we are supposed to in any way take this application seriously?
I'm sorry, but even if this game was single threaded entirely a 4930k should wipe the floor with a phenom II

that plus deferred contexts disabled by default and motion blur that reduces FPS to less than a 3rd of what it should be, I am calling total BS on this benchmark

Gregster · 8 Feb 2014 at 20:25

Scores updated

hominid · 8 Feb 2014 at 20:50

Can this thread be locked, then someone else can start it again without having to so accurately follow the 'rules'?

I was hoping to get some useful information out of this thread, but, again, down to some of the vocal minority has brought this section down to a laughing stock.

Tonester0011 · 8 Feb 2014 at 20:54

hominid said:
Can this thread be locked, then someone else can start it again without having to so accurately follow the 'rules'?

I was hoping to get some useful information out of this thread, but, again, down to some of the vocal minority has brought this section down to a laughing stock.

By all means, go and open another thread named "Star Swarm - Oxide bench thread"

Please, just don't put any pesky 'rules' for me to follow? I don't want to know which GPU/CPU or indeed what preset of the bench people used....i just want the numbers :rolleyes:

Gregster · 8 Feb 2014 at 20:55

hominid said:
Can this thread be locked, then someone else can start it again without having to so accurately follow the 'rules'?

I was hoping to get some useful information out of this thread, but, again, down to some of the vocal minority has brought this section down to a laughing stock.

No need for locking and I will alter the rules to make them simpler for everyone to follow

Gregster · 8 Feb 2014 at 21:06

Official entry

CPU 3930K @ 4.625Ghz - GPU GTX Titan at 1015Mhz

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Oxide Games
Star Swarm Stress Test - ©2013
C:\Users\Greg\Documents\Star Swarm\Output_14_02_08_2048.txt
Version 1.00
02/08/2014 20:48
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== Hardware Configuration =================================
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN
CPU: GenuineIntel
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3930K CPU @ 3.20GHz
Physical Cores: 6
Logical Cores: 12
Physical Memory: 17122181120
Allocatable Memory: 8796092891136
===========================================================

== Configuration ==========================================
API: DirectX
Scenario: ScenarioFollow.csv
User Input: Disabled
Resolution: 1920x1080
Fullscreen: True
GameCore Update: 16.6 ms
Bloom Quality: High
PointLight Quality: High
ToneCurve Quality: High
Glare Overdraw: 16
Shading Samples: 64
Shade Quality: Mid
Deferred Contexts: Enabled
Temporal AA Duration: 16
Temporal AA Time Slice: 2
Detailed Frame Info: Off
===========================================================

== Results ================================================
Test Duration: 360 Seconds
Total Frames: 17011

Average FPS: 47.25
Average Unit Count: 4140
Maximum Unit Count: 5309
Average Batches/MS: 851.57
Maximum Batches/MS: 4348.98
Average Batch Count: 20228
Maximum Batch Count: 129482
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