Star Trek question!

Ricochet J · 30 Jul 2006 at 22:00

Another question.
If you look at the Klingon ships, Romulan, Vulcan, Ferengi, whichever. Then look at the Federations, why do the Federation ships need to be the same bloody design all the time? Do their designers get a kick out of making the same bloody ship every time?

I mean look at all previous versions of the Enterprise.
Then look at Voyager.
Look at any other Federation ship.

They mostly consist of a head, a body and two legs for the warp thing.
What is that about?

Lopéz · 30 Jul 2006 at 22:02

vintage-x said:
new question why do all the aliens ect speak english is it somthing to do with some translator? i cant for the life of me remember

Yep, Universal Translator. It sort of gets retro-explained in Enterprise when it is still far from perfect.

Lopéz · 30 Jul 2006 at 22:03

eXSBass said:
Another question.
If you look at the Klingon ships, Romulan, Vulcan, Ferengi, whichever. Then look at the Federations, why do the Federation ships need to be the same bloody design all the time? Do their designers get a kick out of making the same bloody ship every time?

I mean look at all previous versions of the Enterprise.
Then look at Voyager.
Look at any other Federation ship.

They mostly consist of a head, a body and two legs for the warp thing.
What is that about?

It's generic styling. The same as in the 90's Peugeot's 106, 306, 406 and 605 all looked very similar.

Mickey_D · 30 Jul 2006 at 22:04

Personally I always liked the Vulcan's ship designs. Look at the D'kyr class. Very nice streamlined design IMO.

Ricochet J · 30 Jul 2006 at 22:05

And what ship did you guys say was built to fight of the Borg threat?

Edit:

Mickey_D said:
Personally I always liked the Vulcan's ship designs. Look at the D'kyr class. Very nice streamlined design IMO.

Romulan warbird > * designs

Berserker · 30 Jul 2006 at 22:08

eXSBass said:
Another question.
If you look at the Klingon ships, Romulan, Vulcan, Ferengi, whichever. Then look at the Federations, why do the Federation ships need to be the same bloody design all the time? Do their designers get a kick out of making the same bloody ship every time?

I mean look at all previous versions of the Enterprise.
Then look at Voyager.
Look at any other Federation ship.

They mostly consist of a head, a body and two legs for the warp thing.
What is that about?

Well, the 'legs' (nacelles) thing has been explained to some degree (not entirely convincingly due to ships like Defiant dispensing with the design). Also, the Federation ships are primarily ships of exploration, not ships of war. The Klingon and Romulan ships are most definitely warships. Vulcan ships are, on the whole, just odd.

Mickey_D · 30 Jul 2006 at 22:10

eXSBass said:
And what ship did you guys say was built to fight of the Borg threat?

There were several. But the Defiant is the most common. Fairly well known as the overpowered Turtle. It had MASSIVE engines for its size, the ablative armor was fit for a ship four times its size, and the pulse phasers were of a power befitting a MUCH larger ship.

All this gave it the ability to maneuver incredibly well and pack a whopping punch. Think Bruce Lee.......

Rancidelephant · 30 Jul 2006 at 22:46

So who played the star trek game Birth of the federation ... genius stuff!

Frost · 30 Jul 2006 at 22:54

Mickey_D said:
There were several. But the Defiant is the most common. Fairly well known as the overpowered Turtle. It had MASSIVE engines for its size, the ablative armor was fit for a ship four times its size, and the pulse phasers were of a power befitting a MUCH larger ship.

All this gave it the ability to maneuver incredibly well and pack a whopping punch. Think Bruce Lee.......

I think O'brian also found a way in the later DS9 episodes to basically have the phasers to be powered directly from the warp core aswell didn't he? increasing their power by quite a fair ammount, or were they always like that :confused:

Mickey_D · 30 Jul 2006 at 23:01

Frost said:
I think O'brian also found a way in the later DS9 episodes to basically have the phasers to be powered directly from the warp core aswell didn't he? increasing their power by quite a fair ammount, or were they always like that

I do believe they were always like that, especially since they are integrated INTO the warp nacelles!!

SiriusB · 30 Jul 2006 at 23:03

The Defiant is an awesome ship

Shame the Breen managed to total one in a single shot

SiriusB

Ricochet J · 30 Jul 2006 at 23:12

Frost said:
I think O'brian also found a way in the later DS9 episodes to basically have the phasers to be powered directly from the warp core aswell didn't he? increasing their power by quite a fair ammount, or were they always like that

Is O'brian that lonely guy in The Next Generation who never gets any sex, and never leaves that damn transporter room, and whenever on camera presses a few buttons pretending he's doing something?

VaderDSL · 30 Jul 2006 at 23:13

Rancidelephant said:
So who played the star trek game Birth of the federation ... genius stuff!

still play it

Rancidelephant · 30 Jul 2006 at 23:18

VaderDSL said:
still play it

Just installing now, i was really impressed with the differences between the races, always found it amusing to be the ferengi and just buy everything and have silly big fleets which could eat most things.

Probably needs a discussion thread all of its own.

Did yours take about 5 hours per turn after about 100

Frost · 30 Jul 2006 at 23:24

eXSBass said:
Is O'brian that lonely guy in The Next Generation who never gets any sex, and never leaves that damn transporter room, and whenever on camera presses a few buttons pretending he's doing something?

Yep that's him, but on DS9 he's the chief engineer and has a wife + daughter

iCraig · 30 Jul 2006 at 23:52

It's funny how the LCARS menu system that the federation use is just a set of coloured buttons that flash, no idea how they understand what's going on with it.

"Hmm that yellow button blinked red twice, that must mean a temporal anonomly has opened up 20,000 km off the port bow."

However in some episodes they had a viewscreen whilst working, but a lot of the time they stare at coloured lights and can see complex readings.

GSXRMovistar · 31 Jul 2006 at 01:31

Mickey_D said:
Not so much the video, but I would love to have that version of "Crawling"!!

Linkin Park - Krwlng (Mike Shinoda feat. Aaron Lewis)

From the Reanimation album.

momentimori · 31 Jul 2006 at 01:35

eXSBass said:
Is O'brian that lonely guy in The Next Generation who never gets any sex, and never leaves that damn transporter room, and whenever on camera presses a few buttons pretending he's doing something?

He must do at some point as he is married to Keiko by Capt Picard, in 10 Forward, and Worf delivers their daughter Molly in the STNG episode Disaster

Energize · 31 Jul 2006 at 01:40

Rancidelephant said:
So who played the star trek game Birth of the federation ... genius stuff!

Star trek online is in the making.

SiriusB · 31 Jul 2006 at 02:44

They're also doing a new Star Trek game with ALL the Star Trek era's ships. You start of flying the Bathtub Enterprise and over the course of the game get to fly stuff like the Enterprise E and other ships.

SiriusB