Star Trek: Section 31

Very disappointed about all this negativity. I've thought for years that something based around Section 31 could be a fun new creative space to explore, and when Yeoh signed on I was super hyped. Haven't watched it yet, but sounds like it's a fail. Still, will give it a shot.
 
S31 in ST over the last decade or so feels a bit like what they did with the Borg. Brilliant at first, hugely overused, ruined/not nearly as menacing.
 
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Arterion said:
Very disappointed about all this negativity. I've thought for years that something based around Section 31 could be a fun new creative space to explore, and when Yeoh signed on I was super hyped. Haven't watched it yet, but sounds like it's a fail. Still, will give it a shot.
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So did i.. I was really looking forward to seeing the dirty work that sometimes has be be done by a covert federation branch that has to work to let the Federation have plausible deniability, basically a more gritty/adult take on star trek. Unfortunately although this wasn't it really, bar a couple of questionable deaths and less than moral decisions.
 
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doodah said:
S31 in ST over the last decade or so feels a bit like what they did with the Borg. Brilliant at first, hugely overused, ruined/not nearly as menacing.
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Yeah, their secrecy level and integration with Starfleet has radically changed over the years and across the various Trek productions.

Here's how that breaks down chronologically:

2149 - Malcolm Reed, then a young ensign in Earth's Starfleet, recruited into Section 31 which is a part of Starfleet Security that isn't widely known about.
2250s - S31 so un-secret that they have their own black Starfleet delta insignia and their own fleet.
2258 - control of S31 handed to TylerVoq, Starfleet promising to make the organisation more transparent.
2324 (this film) - S31 no longer really a part of Starfleet but they have some oversight of the organisation for missions.
2370s - S31 is a super secret spy organisation doing super secret spy missions to super secretly aid the security of the Federation. Shhh though. It's a secret.
 
Or if you want to completely mess it up, Kelvin timeline had 2259 with Section 31 having Starfleet Admirals involved, Khan, multiple bases posing as archive centres and some of the biggest ships in the fleet being constructed in oversized spacedocks, but it's all hush hush. In that timeline Section 31 could transport people hundreds of lightyears away to different planets, no idea why they needed the big ship.
 
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Or if you want to completely mess it up, Kelvin timeline had 2259 with Section 31 having Starfleet Admirals involved, Khan, multiple bases posing as archive centres and some of the biggest ships in the fleet being constructed in oversized spacedocks, but it's all hush hush. In that timeline Section 31 could transport people hundreds of lightyears away to different planets, no idea why they needed the big ship.
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Fair point, I could have included that if I wanted to spend even a single second thinking much about Into Darkness ;) Beyond declaring it to still be the worst Trek production of the lot, Section 31 notwithstanding.
 
Lets not forget their super secret warship that had its own model on an admiral's office desk.
 
Holy **** it was awful. Oceans 11 combined that horrible "magic trick" heist movie and some violence and bad 2020s acting.

I know why i stopped watching modern star trek.

So sad.
 
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