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Chemical Ali

In todays CentCom briefing the US had intel placing him in Saddam Hospital, An Nasiriyah, but the British are investigating whether he was killed in a Coalition airstrike.
BBC - half way down the page.
An assessment is under way of what damage was caused to a Basra building in which Ali Hassan al-Majid, dubbed 'Chemical Ali', was believed to be staying. A British Army source said al-Majid "was seen entering a building by a reliable source on the ground". "The building was subsequently targeted and hit by both air strikes and artillery. "There is a strong chance that anyone caught inside would have been killed or seriously injured."
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Ali has more lives than the proverbial cat, he was also allegedly killed in the initial decapitation strike.
 
I was watching sky news yesterday and I thought this was funny, there were some iraqi troops doing some sort of demonstration of alertness, they were standing around and then a guy blew a whistle, they all rushed into their trench on guard in the most messiest manner:D Also what was quite amusing was when they reported that Kurdish troops in the north have made about the same ground as the allies in the south ( i know they havent had any opposition)
 
Tree Huggers on the march again today. However apathy has really set in as the bbc reportedly said that only 1000 people attended compared to 1 million last month. Those lesbian drummers were on the news at the march and have voiced complaints as a copper apparently called them "a bunch of todger dodgers!!"
 
any chance the allies could get some water to the umm-qasr hospital, please?

i know it's already been liberated, and the cameras have had a couple of shots of the folk getting aid, but the reality is that the smallest liberated town (pop. 40,000) does not have enough clean water.

i know it's not as exciting as war porn, but hey, it's reality.

Thoria Hingibeba, a matron at the local hospital, told me that it had not received any water for three days. Although tankers had initially delivered water to the hospital, that supply had now stopped, she claimed. She was seeing many people with illnesses caused by dirty water. The generator had broken and morale was rock bottom as medical workers grew increasingly tired and frustrated. The hospital had been swamped by 400 people that day – nearly three times the usual flow – after a false rumour had circulated that new supplies of medicines had been delivered. Many had come, they said, because American radio broadcasts told them they would be looked after.
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http://argument.independent.co.uk/commentators/story.jsp?story=394123
 
Originally posted by cousin_itt
any chance the allies could get some water to the umm-qasr hospital, please?
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Soldiers concede this has happened, but say local people are reluctant to accept the bottled water stockpiled in the port, instead preferring to fill their own containers. The water tanker operation is certainly working. At dusk, an orderly queue of families gathers by the Royal Marine base at the border to calmly fill buckets and large cooking oil containers. There is none of the chaos which accompanied the first water supply runs after the invasion.

It may be that some locals shun offers of soaps and bottled water, because having the containers around their homes would identify them too closely with the invading British, should Saddam return as many still fear. It could also be that extra food is being requested is not to satisfy immediate hunger, but to stockpile, since many worry not only about the outcome of the war, but that Britain's interest in feeding them may soon wane. It is certainly true that the children asking for food from passing vehicles do so with smiles and looks of curiosity, rather than desperation.

They also dodge and weave from one car window to another with a speed and lightness of foot one would not expect if they were truly deprived of food and water.
'I think 'water, water' is the only English most of them have learned. I'm not sure if that's what they even really want,' says a soldier as the convoy carefully picks its way passed them.
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As usual the left wing distorts the events in Iraq to justify its hatred of the success of the war
 
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a chap from cafod and a matron at the local hospital? left-wingers? probably.

their testimony, not mine.

you think they're lying?
i guess it makes you feel better.

As usual the left wing distorts the events in Iraq to justify its hatred of the success of the war
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you're not right in the head, mate.
 
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Nice editing Sleepy you had to skip a lot of paragraphgs to pick that out LMAO.

Have a look at the link and read the full story posted.

eg a bit you missed out

"Cafod particularly criticised the water distribution network, saying local tanker drivers were charging people to fill up from their hoses"

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"Aid workers from the UK-based charity Cafod visited Umm Qasr on Thursday and concluded that the effort to supply food and water to its civilian inhabitants since US-led forces entered it is a 'shambles'. "

Of course these are only AID workers and probably left wingers trying to show their hatred of the 'success of the war'.:rolleyes:
 
From the same article which I've read and others like it.
"In Sgt Tutty's warehouses there seems to be no lack of food, nor of organisation. "
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Watched any of the interviews with the ICRC spokeswoman? Or watched an interview with another aid worker who managed to turn every question about the current situation in Iraq into a diatribe about debt relief. If you think people like Patrick Nicholson dont have there own agendas then you are naive in the extreme. Is there proof of these claims? Do you honestly think the same troops who
'When we drove in, we handed out our own water and emergency rations. You can't drive by children in ragged clothes and not give them all you have,' says Squadron Quartermaster Sergeant Iain Menzies.
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would not if informed of a hospital running out of water drive a bowser themselves to the hospital?
 
I don't trust those ICRC tree huggers. I trust Tuttys warehouse to give me the facts.

'Mister, mister, give, give', is an English phrase many have mastered. Others merely shout, 'Water, water'. An adult, some yards back from the road, motions to his mouth.

From the BBC reporter.
 
Originally posted by Custor
Nice post from a liberator.:rolleyes: You're all heart. the Iraqi people must love you.
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You don't think people are trying? you think they're sitting about smoking crack or showering in the water intended for Iraqis? Get real.
 
Originally posted by Custor
You're all heart. the Iraqi people must love you.
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And the pleasure you're getting from pointing out problems is, of course, out of the goodness of your heart. Afterall we all know how much you dislike the Iraqi people suffering under the iron boot of the coalition. Ohh for the good old days of the previous regime where all was sweetness and light unlike those evil gits of the British Army
i know it's not as exciting as war porn, but hey.
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Thats right if you're losing the argument insult the other side. :rolleyes:
 
war porn is war porn.
you should learn to see it for what it is.

oooo ooooo clusterbombs, devastating area weaponry, squirt.

'we are doing all we can to minimise civilian casualties etc. etc. it's good clean wholesome fun' squirt squirt.

well, not quite, is it? considering food aid is the same colour as clusterbomblets - even though this caused extra civilian deaths in afghanistan. there they were forced to make the aid blue.

anyway this article puts it much better than i can:
It is also about the thrill, for non-combatants, of affecting familiarity with militaria: slang such as "bite and hold" and "use them or lose them" delivers a visible jolt of pleasure to its users, but even without this, so much of the language of war is borrowed from sex, sport and entertainment that it constantly undermines attempts by those who use it, to seem serious. Ten minutes of channel hopping produced this sequence:
"Flank protection."
"The thrust is actually going on outside Basra."
"Tanks tanks..."
"The big push."
"Kick off outside the airfields..."
"Deadly game of cat and mouse."
"Pounding the earth."
"We were barrelling along the main road with these missiles flying overhead. It was an extraordinary show."
This showbiz element of war is, to a limited extent, encouraged by the military. Witness the rabble-rousing speeches given to troops by their US commanders: "it's hammer time" and "resistance is futile," which is what the Borg, a race of cybernetic beings, say before they assimilate you in Star Trek.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,921919,00.html
 
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I've said since day one that there was a voyeuristic side to war, always has been. However, equally, there's also a fair bit of anti-war "porn" or "treehugger-porn" shall I call it?
 
there is an entertainment side to the humanitarian crisis?!?!?!

please elaborate.

i don't think it's possible to underestimate the crisis. when you hear that a hospital smells of sewerage, i don't get excited, thank you very much.
 
well sleepy, i guess being both against war and it's repercussions and hussain's awful regime is just a bit too complicated an idea for you to grasp.

i'm neither with you nor against you.
 
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