State of RT today. Is it usuable?

[Rofflay]

Same applies to DLSS also. Considering AMD Upscaling + RIS does better job, and even 2560x1440 to 4K upscaling works perfectly with just 2 clicks on the driver settings and not much advertising about it as something ground breaking and the best thing since sliced bread.

VSR? If so come on DLSS is one thing, RIS is good but VSR beating DSR is what you are hinting here? Im gonna be triggered because DSR is VASTLY superior to the lazy AMD click me version.


Troll away at DLSS but not Nvidia upscaling to 4k. It comes with a smoothess slider does VSR?

 

[Panos]

VSR? If so come on DLSS is one thing, RIS is good but VSR beating DSR is what you are hinting here? Im gonna be triggered because DSR is VASTLY superior to the lazy AMD click me version.


Troll away at DLSS but not Nvidia upscaling to 4k.

If I wanted to troll, would have written some bolder statement for the laughs without backing up.

Have a look here the effect of 5700 (non XT) at 4K upscaling with 2560x1440 + RIS. And we know how better is looking at 3200x1800 from HU video.

And DLSS is just "deep learning upscaling" as it renders the frame at lower resolution, and then using an educated guess (from pre-procesed data at NV servers) how it should look at higher resolution (eg 4K) filling the gaps.

 

[Rofflay]

Have a look here the effect of 5700 (non XT) at 4K upscaling with 2560x1440 + RIS. And we know how better is looking at 3200x1800 from HU video.

Naturally AMD will win with RIS that is dumb because 1440p to 4k is a resized non 1:1 upscale. So RIS can sharpen the nature of a blurry upscale. ALL non 1:1 upscales they probablt win because you are not showing RIS against freestyle at 1440p and with someone messing with the dsr smoothness slider. You are showing Nvidia unfairly do a fair 1:1 test you will see non native res i bet AMD win.

But in 1:1 conversions like 1080p to 4k Nvidia clearly win mate because they can do a HQ filter upscale that is the best quality you can find i tried all the others, every games supersampling Nvidia spank AMD on upscaling. But if you are going to say oh but at 1440p AMD win because we are not using DSR plys freestyle i do not see how that is fair. There is no way in hell AMD have better upscaling without RIS. So are you using RIS here like i said? Unfairly?


Show 1440p and 4k but show them with freestyle and RIS and show them both at 4k and 1440p but when you do this mess with the DSR slider because at 4k with it off AMD will lose. This way we could see two native 4k upscales BOTH using thier sharpening software and we could see who has the best image quality. This is a fair test.

 

[TNA]

Let me fix that for you:

• Assetto Corsa Competizione
  
• Atomic Heart
  
• Battlefield 5
  
• Call of Duty: Modern Warfare
  
• Control
  
• Enlisted
  
• MechWarrior 5: Mercenaries
  
• Metro Exodus
  
• Quake II
  
• Shadow of the Tomb Raider
  
• Stay in the Light
  
• Justice
  
• JX3
  
• Project DH
  
• Wolfenstein: Youngblood
  
• Watch Dogs Legion
  

NOPE...

• Cyberpunk 2077

YES YES YES

 

[Gregster]

You missed 3 more confirmed RT games.

DOOM Eternal
Sword and Fairy 7
Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2

Thanks Athlon

 

[scubes]

I didn’t buy this card for RT or dlss no interest to me all I wanted this card was for raw speed.

 

[Marine-RX179]

I didn’t buy this card for RT or dlss no interest to me all I wanted this card was for raw speed.

But you have already paid the RTX tax.

+30% performance coming from the 1080ti at nearly 2 years ago, and with the price hiked from around £700 up to £1300 at launch was a raw deal to the consumers. £800~£900 at most should have been what consumer have to pay purely on raw performance increase and ignoring the RTX features. Nvidia kept pushing the envelope further and further, just because they can.

 

[Poneros]

RT GI remains the dream. Let's hope Dice adds it officially instead of crappy reflections.

 

[melmac]

Let me fix that for you:

 

[scubes]

It just works!

 

[opethdisciple]

So to answer my own question this the answer is yes RTX is definitely viable at the moment!

2080 Super benchmark shows ultra RTX + DLSS at 1400p 61fps!

 

[willhub]

So what's the best option with games, native 4 k or 1440 + DLSS on a 4k tv?

 

[Sin_Chase]

What came first? The chicken or the egg.

Got to start somewhere.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

So to answer my own question this the answer is yes RTX is definitely viable at the moment!

2080 Super benchmark shows ultra RTX + DLSS at 1400p 61fps!

So what about the 1% and 0.1% lows then?? Also a £700 to £800 graphics card,and it still needs machine learning assisted upscaling to even get to 60FPS. Also 1440p is now in monitors under £200. So what happens in 2020 or 2021 when there are more graphical intensive games??

What is even worse,a GTX1080TI in the same review gets about 60FPS.

Meh,better to wait for the RTX3000 series.

 

[beany_bot]

I played raytraced Minecraft recently and I genuinely genuinely preferred the look of regular rasterized Minecraft. I just didn't think the raytracing looked very good at all. It didn't look natural, it was really overdone. Shadows were way overbaked (too dark) and light areas were too light. For example. Plop a block down in the middle of a field on a sunny day and it creates a very dark, very defined shadow behind it. But real life is much more subtle. It's as if the contrast of life was cranked up way too high.


And it's not just Minecraft, every raytracing showcase I have seen is the same. Really really overdone shadows. Like the unlit corners of rooms are near pitch black. Is your room at home like that??
I genuinely prefer rasterized shadows at this point.

 

[haszek]

It all depends on games.

I don't want to play CP2077 without RT, so decided to go for 2080S. Otherwise I would've waited. I doubt RTX3080 will be released before next summer, so if I had to get RT I might as well do it now. There is more releases in the spring that I would want to check out.

But technology looks great.

 

[Grim5]

I’m still hopeful of a rtx3000 launch alongside Cyberpunk

 

[opethdisciple]

Yes. I'm not buying a new GPU until the 3000 series. In fact I wont play Cyberpunk until I have a new GPU.

I got tons of games in my back log anyway.

 

[opethdisciple]

I’m still hopeful of a rtx3000 launch alongside Cyberpunk

I think Nvidia knows this. They know a lot of people want to play this game with RT, so I fully expect them to have something up their sleeve. If it isn't some software magic to improve RT on current cards it will be new hardware.

 

[TNA]

It all depends on games.

I don't want to play CP2077 without RT, so decided to go for 2080S. Otherwise I would've waited. I doubt RTX3080 will be released before next summer, so if I had to get RT I might as well do it now. There is more releases in the spring that I would want to check out.

But technology looks great.

I am 99% sure it will come out before Cyberpunk 2077. The RT on the 3000 series will likely be much better too. My guess is the 3070 will have better RT performance than a 2080Ti.