Steam Frame (Valve Index 2)

My take is you're not limited by what games or applications you can run directly on the headset. You're not locked into any ecosystem or store, which afaik you are with the Quest.
i think waht they are refering to is being ale to side load apks with developer access and sidequest which meta tolerate but would rather not have.

but i generally agree with you.
 
Now breath...

My position is, anything more than £400 and they can keep it.

I can't justify paying more as I know it won't get enough use to warrant it.
can't have it both ways imo.

you either pay a sensible price for the hardware.. or you buy a cheaper headset subsidised by letting meta use your data as well as buy standalone software from the meta store. (it's still open for PCVR however)

if £400 is your limit buy a quest 3S (iirc in a sale it goes as low as £300)

if you want an open headset and (hopefully) no using your data then expect to pay £800+

IF you don't want meta and you don't care about standalone then you could do much worse than buying a 2nd hand reverb G2, high resolution, good colours (small sweetspot but if you frankenmod it to replace the facial insert (lots of guides online) I find the sweetspot ok and it maximises the FOV too.

also has industry leading built in sound (same as the index)
 
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can't have it both ways imo.

you either pay a sensible price for the hardware.. or you buy a cheaper headset subsidised by letting meta use your data as well as buy standalone software from the meta store. (it's still open for PCVR however)

if £400 is your limit buy a quest 3S (iirc in a sale it goes as low as £300)

if you want an open headset and (hopefully) no using your data then expect to pay £800+

IF you don't want meta and you don't care about standalone then you could do much worse than buying a 2nd hand reverb G2, high resolution, good colours (small sweetspot but if you frankenmod it to replace the facial insert (lots of guides online) I find the sweetspot ok and it maximises the FOV too.

also has industry leading built in sound (same as the index)

Had the G1 some years ago. Been there done that. Tech needs to move forward and it should not mean price has to balloon with it.

I have zero interest in a meta product. As for steam, once they can make products at a cheaper price point or I end up in a situation where I have a lot more free time then then I will buy their headset. But at £800 these will sell like the Index (not very much).

I reckon it will be cheaper than that. But yeah, probably not £400. And that is fine. I dont even have the time keep up with not my games, let alone add vr into the mix.
 
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