Stephen Fry and Apple Macs

Le_Petit_Lapin · 8 Dec 2008 at 18:29

dangerstat said:
No it really doesn't. It's like getting a new car, and one supports all sorts of 3rd party add-ons but the better one is just a better car. No matter how good the addons are the other car is just better?

Not if you need the options that the 3rd party addons provide.

its all well and good having as rock solid OS, but ultimately pointless if it cant do what you need.

PhillyDee said:
ANYWAY

This stephen fry bloke . . . . .

Is he gay? someone the other day told me he was, but I told them that was just him acting in V for Vendetta.

dangerstat · 8 Dec 2008 at 18:29

Le_Petit_Lapin said:
I never said it was useless.

I said it was "useless, for me".

Vista may well be inferior technically, but given that nothing else will do what I want, it is the only OS for me, and it does what I want well.

Thats 100% fine fella, but the OP is about whatever he's called ranting about how useless Vista is, and like I say he has a point it is carp when considered against the rivals. How course certain people will ALWAYS need to run with something carp. But that never changes the fact that it's carp if you see my point

weringo · 8 Dec 2008 at 18:32

dangerstat said:
No it really doesn't. It's like getting a new car, and one supports all sorts of 3rd party add-ons but the better one is just a better car. No matter how good the addons are the other car is just better?

It's more like being sold a nice brand new Mercedes but being told you're only allowed to drive it around London, is tha really a better option than buying a 3 year old Mondeo which you can drive anywhere?

Wicksta · 8 Dec 2008 at 18:34

The biggest problem with Apple is their owners. 95% seem to have social problems. It really puts me off ownership and a lot of Apple forums, it's like Apple can do no wrong. Even here we have to have the iPhone in the Macintosh (now renamed Apple) hardware forums because the nasty other people might compare it to different phones. Pathetic.

(I own three Macs and an iPhone by the way and personally prefer them to PCs at the moment)

Le_Petit_Lapin · 8 Dec 2008 at 18:37

dangerstat said:
Thats 100% fine fella, but the OP is about whatever he's called ranting about how useless Vista is, and like I say he has a point it is carp when considered against the rivals. How course certain people will ALWAYS need to run with something carp. But that never changes the fact that it's carp if you see my point

Now with added "Five Fin Technology".

dangerstat · 8 Dec 2008 at 18:39

Le_Petit_Lapin said:
Now with added "Five Fin Technology".

LMAO "once I catch a fish and it was this big
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Squark · 8 Dec 2008 at 18:42

Le_Petit_Lapin said:
Is he gay? someone the other day told me he was, but I told them that was just him acting in V for Vendetta.

Yes

G|mp · 8 Dec 2008 at 18:42

Le_Petit_Lapin said:
Is he gay? someone the other day told me he was, but I told them that was just him acting in V for Vendetta.

As gay as a gay man in gayland who lives in gay street number gayty9

Le_Petit_Lapin · 8 Dec 2008 at 18:45

Squark said:
Yes

G|mp said:
As gay as a gay man in gayland who lives in gay street number gayty9

No way! I never knew!

SiHH · 8 Dec 2008 at 18:48

joey1211 said:
I used to quite like Stephen Fry, but he really is starting to get on my nerves with his continious Apple endorsing/advertising.

http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/241488/vista-triggers-stephen-fry-twitter-meltdown.html

Off the top of my head I can think of three recent tv progs where, surprise, surprise, apple have been mentioned/featured.

dude you gotta get out more if things like that bother you.

Matt · 8 Dec 2008 at 18:48

Stephen Fry is great. He is also crazily addicted to Twitter!

Atrox Moris · 8 Dec 2008 at 18:48

Wicksta said:
The biggest problem with Apple is their owners. 95% seem to have social problems. It really puts me off ownership and a lot of Apple forums, it's like Apple can do no wrong. Even here we have to have the iPhone in the Macintosh (now renamed Apple) hardware forums because the nasty other people might compare it to different phones. Pathetic.

(I own three Macs and an iPhone by the way and personally prefer them to PCs at the moment)

When Belfast got it's Apple store, there was a slot on local news about it and they were talking to people who were queued up waiting to get in... I sat infront of the TV, facepalmed and felt bad for all the Apple users who aren't grade A tools. One proclaimed he loved Macs because he was a designer and then showed off his Apple logo tattoo.

But it always happens. They get the rampant fanboys (and girls) at their worst.

Energize · 8 Dec 2008 at 18:50

Vista is much better after, "Net user administrator /active:yes".

SiHH · 8 Dec 2008 at 18:51

Atrox Moris said:
Apple logo tattoo.

A tattoo of a brand name, thats nothing new. People get tattoos of their football teams, favourite music artists et al.

Im not saying I would but..

Le_Petit_Lapin · 8 Dec 2008 at 18:52

Atrox Moris said:
When Belfast got it's Apple store, there was a slot on local news about it and they were talking to people who were queued up waiting to get in... I sat infront of the TV, facepalmed and felt bad for all the Apple users who aren't grade A tools. One proclaimed he loved Macs because he was a designer and then showed off his Apple logo tattoo.

But it always happens. They get the rampant fanboys (and girls) at their worst.

Is that the one in the Victoria Centre? it's always empty when I doddle past, apart from a couple of teenagers giggling at an iPod.

Energize said:
Vista is much better after, "Net user administrator /active:yes".

Why would you want to?

Atrox Moris · 8 Dec 2008 at 19:01

Le_Petit_Lapin said:
Is that the one in the Victoria Centre? it's always empty when I doddle past, apart from a couple of teenagers giggling at an iPod.

Why would you want to?

If Victoria centre is the new complex with the Dome and that, then yeah. I haven't set foot in Belfast in years myself.

Energize · 8 Dec 2008 at 19:01

Le_Petit_Lapin said:
Why would you want to?

When your doing software development you constantly get uac prompts and have to elevate command prompts to compile and run code. Hell I have had to reinstall games because they needed to be installed in an elevated mode before they would work, which vista failed to tell me. Now I use the main admin account and there is no more hinderence to my work/play. Also, programs that disable signed driver requirements are great as well for making applications like ati tool work.

Werewolf · 8 Dec 2008 at 19:03

I don't see what the fuss is about.

IIRC Fry has been into technology for a long time, and from what I understand is very much into the Mac's because of the generally good design, and ease of use for what he wants them to do - something that has rarely been true of windows until xp/vista (for general non techy users).
I'm guessing he just got completely hacked off with trying to get vista to work with one of his other devices and vented - I do it sometimes, my brother does it a lot and we're both very much PC users*, the difference being he's well known, and he uses twitter, whilst most irritated PC users aren't particularly well known, and probably don't use twitter so their rants are only heard by those in the same building/street.

I don't think he makes that big a song and dance out of his preference for macs, but does joke about them/PC's at times when the subject comes up.

*Vista is in someways a big improvement on XP, but in other ways it's a huge PITA to try and get working as some things are hidden in the "wrong place" (not where you'd logically expect them to be, compared to XP etc), and other things just won't work with it in the way you'd expect or at all.

TheVoice · 8 Dec 2008 at 19:06

dangerstat said:
I use windows professional, mainly because I dont have a choice. But it is pathetic, no two ways about it.

dangerstat said:
Thats 100% fine fella, but the OP is about whatever he's called ranting about how useless Vista is, and like I say he has a point it is carp when considered against the rivals. How course certain people will ALWAYS need to run with something carp. But that never changes the fact that it's carp if you see my point

You seem to think your opinion is fact, and you're expressing it as if it's common knowledge. You've yet to actually explain why you don't like Windows, what disadvantages it has in your experience, or say why you prefer other systems. Instead, you're coming across as a bit narrow-minded, and you keep saying 'carp'.

BigglesPiP · 8 Dec 2008 at 19:06

There's something to be said for well tested hardware combinations. If I started a linux distro it would work out of the box (Flash, Java, codecs, etc.) and would have a tested hardware list.