Not at all!
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Soldato
With an economics degree you can get roles like financial analyst which lead onto becoming a financial business partner and then CFO positions open up to you.
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You can also serve coffee in Starbucks!
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Probably more likely / easier to become a world class dancer from a dance degree.
All I see is 'future McDonald's Manager' written over the majority of degrees.
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I would guess you don't have many friends who are graduates?
Oh, and ignoring the flippancy in your post, management positions at McDonalds require a degree (unless you are promoted from within, but that's rare now), they even offer their own degree apprenticeship program:-
https://people.mcdonalds.co.uk/earl...nt-degree-apprenticeship-programme/programme/
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It doesn't really matter what degree you have if you can't make connections to get you into a decent career.
There are too many qualified people today that its extremely difficult to distinguish between applicants.
The qualification is far less important than sheer luck.
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If you want to enter an actual profession, I disagree.
Try being a lawyer, teacher, doctor, architect, engineer, scientist or banker without a relevant degree and only two of those professions benefit from "connections". Aptitude always trumps 'connections' anyway.
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Why do you think I said 'Degrees have future McDonald's Manager written over them' in the first place smartass?
You clearly don't have many brain cells.
Medicine and Law are two degrees out of how many?
And you cant become anything without valid references, hence connections.
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You're right, we should all stay home and **** education or hard work. Case closed.
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No you should make connections, do apprenticeships / internships instead of degrees and progress from actually knowing people and having links.
The *VAST MAJORITY* of degrees are worth less than a single sheet of budget brand loo roll.
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Hmm, let me check what apprenticeship I need to apply for to become a teacher or a doctor.
Oh, wait, apprenticeships are for trades - nor professions
**well, ignoring the weird degree apprenticeships for a moment..........
No.
Yeah, you might want to think who you're talking to before you come out with guff like that.
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Hmm, let me check what apprenticeship I need to apply for to become a teacher or a doctor.
Oh, wait, apprenticeships are for trades - nor professions
*well, ignoring the weird degree apprenticeships for a moment..........
Explain how you get 16 year olds working as assistants during operations and elsewhere in hospitals then? Or have you never actually been inside a hospital?
Look up Clinical Science Training. You don't need a medical degree to become a Doctor.
Here's a whole bunch more https://www.careers.cuh.nhs.uk/apprenticeships/apprenticeships-healthcare-science/
Unsurprising that amigafan is a big fan of jobs requiring degrees, since he basically has been funded to do 3 or more of them to date. Iirc, taxpayer funded for a large part of that.
We're the first few generations that have required degrees for everything because so many people have degrees.
You don't have to look too far back to see people running successful businesses without degrees. Clearly they managed, somehow.
I'm not sure you really, truthfully need a degree to run a Dominos franchise or whatever. Doubly so if your degree is in Ancient Alien History or Racial Gender Theory or the like.
We're the first few generations that have required degrees for everything because so many people have degrees.
You don't have to look too far back to see people running successful businesses without degrees. Clearly they managed, somehow.
I'm not sure you really, truthfully need a degree to run a Dominos franchise or whatever. Doubly so if your degree is in Ancient Alien History or Racial Gender Theory or the like.
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Clinical Science level 3 is the same thing as being a 'doctor', and can be gotten onto via the apprenticeships linked above.
Don't need to go to university at all, and the NHS funds you up to Masters degree. You have to pay for your own 'PHD', but is mostly done clinically in the Hospital, not at a university.
You become a 'Consultant Specialist' at the end of it earning the same rate as a 'doctor', and doing the exact same thing as any NHS specialist in whichever field you trained up in.
When I had a minor operation, I was surprised to wake up to see an army of under 18 year olds pushing me around - they are doing NHS apprenticeships from 16 onwards and can work their way up to becoming an NHS specialist without racking up student debts and being paid from the start.
Don't need to go to university at all, and the NHS funds you up to Masters degree. You have to pay for your own 'PHD', but is mostly done clinically in the Hospital, not at a university.
You become a 'Consultant Specialist' at the end of it earning the same rate as a 'doctor', and doing the exact same thing as any NHS specialist in whichever field you trained up in.
When I had a minor operation, I was surprised to wake up to see an army of under 18 year olds pushing me around - they are doing NHS apprenticeships from 16 onwards and can work their way up to becoming an NHS specialist without racking up student debts and being paid from the start.
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Think you need an engineering degree or equivalent just to scrub toilets and mop floors now. Well ok that's exaggeration, but you do need 2x2 year references.
Can't become a manager without one anyway, and from what I've seen the people that do place emphasis on having a degree for rubbish jobs don't generally have one themselves - the requirement is there because too many people have degrees and they can easily find hundreds of degree qualified applicants per warehouse manager role. The sheer number of people with degrees applying for management training and roles is all the evidence needed to show just how worthless a degree is today.
If a 16 yo is not doing an apprenticeship today, they've listened to advice from idiots. Also electricians and landscapers can charge over £150 per hour. Good luck ever earning that much with your medicine or law degree.
A friend of mine went there and loved it, granted this was in the 00s so things might have changed. IIRC back then it was up there with Warwick as one of the best not-Oxbridge/not-London universities.
It's not a Red Brick but is a relatively modern university (like Warick is too) but still competitive, it's also part of the Russell group.
The dual honours courses they offer: BSc Economics and Mathematics or BSc Economics and Econometrics might be better (if he's got the aptitude/interest in maths/stats).
Can often switch courses in freshers week, or for the latter course, it looks like the first year is basically the same for BSc Economics as it is for BSc Economics and Econometrics so could probs switch at the end of the first year if he chose to.
Can be, depends how much maths/stats/econometrics they include in the course IMO. If plenty then it can be like taking a STEM degree, keeps open a few more career options etc.. Having a good stats background is increasingly in demand these days.
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None of those apprenticeships are for Doctors - they are support roles.