Stranger Things (Netflix)

[Moothead2]

We're talking about a show where children are fighting interdimensional psychic monsters like DnD in real life, getting hung up on 'but would the military really do that?' just seems like looking for problems to have a whinge about

Do you think Lord of the Rings would be as good if the ring got destroyed and Sauron and his army just said "ah well that's that then, go along now"? Or would it be jarring as hell because it doesn't make sense either in universe or from a real world perspective?

Just because a show is full of made up stuff doesn't mean you can't be critical of how they're written.

 

[Zefan]

I think i could get behind a prequal in a couple of years, something very different no kids but more about how the guy in the cave got there. How did he know about the mind flare and its powers and how they found the other dimension. Feel like there could be a good story there.

Sorry but I can't let it go, it's mind flayer* x

 

[Kenai]

Just because a show is full of made up stuff doesn't mean you can't be critical of how they're written.

But 'that sort of thing would result in a federal trial' is just a nonsense criticism when you're discussing a military operation that are trying to experiment on kids in an interdimensional wormhole but get defeated by a fat policeman and a teenage girl LARPing as Rambo - the entire thing is complete nonsense from start to finish if people want to be that pedantic about it all.

If you're prepared to suspend your disbelief for the rest of it then I don't think "but the military didn't invoke a federal trial" is really a hill to die on in terms of plotlines.

 

[Zefan]

But 'that sort of thing would result in a federal trial' is just a nonsense criticism when you're discussing a military operation that are trying to experiment on kids in an interdimensional wormhole but get defeated by a fat policeman and a teenage girl LARPing as Rambo - the entire thing is complete nonsense from start to finish if people want to be that pedantic about it all.

If you're prepared to suspend your disbelief for the rest of it then I don't think "but the military didn't invoke a federal trial" is really a hill to die on in terms of plotlines.

The specifics are irrelevant, why, after everything, would they just let the kids go?! It makes zero sense whatsoever. The "well you accepted weird monsters and telekinesis so your criticism is invalid" argument is just as silly as it is in when used against criticism for other shows that have collosals lapses in internal consistency.

 

[Kenai]

The specifics are irrelevant, why, after everything, would they just let the kids go?! It makes zero sense whatsoever. The "well you accepted weird monsters and telekinesis so your criticism is invalid" argument is just as silly as it is in other shows where they don't maintain internal consistency.

Because it was a shady secret operation, that was doing highly illegal things and they were only after one particular member of the group who they watched vanish, so the entire reason for being there just vanished - there would be no particular benefit to them just executing everyone else involved and it couldn't all go public anyway, so just pack up and go home I don't see as really being any more or less stupid in terms of plot than anything else that could have played out from that point.

 

[Zefan]

Because it was a shady secret operation, that was doing highly illegal things and they were only after one particular member of the group who they watched vanish, so the entire reason for being there just vanished - there would be no particular benefit to them just executing everyone else involved and it couldn't all go public anyway, so just pack up and go home I don't see as really being any more or less stupid in terms of plot than anything else that could have played out from that point.

OK. I think that's frankly a hilarious dismissal of totally justified criticism.

 

[Kenai]

OK. I think that's frankly a hilarious dismissal of totally justified criticism.

Well we don't all have to agree, nothing anyone has said has made me think 'but the military didn't react in a realistic way' is anything other than nitpicking an irrelevant detail. I'd get it if it was some sort of issue central to the plot but it's not even close.

 

[rare]

Finally watched the last episode and just felt much of season 5 was extremely mediocre. Early seasons cultivated a real sense of menace and had an amazing aesthetic which just seemed to get lost the more the show went on.

 

[adam cool dude]

The specifics are irrelevant, why, after everything, would they just let the kids go?! It makes zero sense whatsoever. The "well you accepted weird monsters and telekinesis so your criticism is invalid" argument is just as silly as it is in when used against criticism for other shows that have collosals lapses in internal consistency.

If anything the military/government would be covering up their mistakes. Like they did with the initial "earthquake" , "fire" in the mall and the initial disaster at the Lab. The demodogs coming into a fully occupied hospital, stealing kids etc from adults. The attacks on the Wheelers. It would be too much to hide.

The whole thing would have been busted wide open at that point and become a national thing. It just wasn't shown in the series as it is irrelevant.

 

[MatsyLR]

Spoiler

So she was never supposed to be treated as a human just a weapon

Not seen someone mention this yet so.
It was all planned from the beginning, which is an awful decision.

 

[Bluecube]

Still haven't bothered with season 5

Good. We don’t need any more whinging about how bad it is

 

[casper_uk]

So apparently there was a Broadway show which explained the man in the cave and the stone. Science experiment gone wrong that transported them to the Abyss. Most people died but some made it back with the fragment.

 

[unwashed potato!]

Just watched the finale episode tonight. Liked it a lot but definitely felt it didn't quite hit the right notes in too many scenes.

Over all decent series but epaidoes 4 of this season was just by far the best. That scene where the demogorgon stops midair and it pans across to will behind it

Seeing how they used wills powers in this final episode was disappointing that we had this whole big scene in the previous. They built up the need for will to come out and be free of his worries, to then never have it a thing again. At least if Henry had started to go through wills fears and we see something about this, and will just says something back like "I've already outted myself" and then he fights back even stronger against Henry, it would have made that previous episodes coming out have a point.

Linda Hamilton and her number 2 guy were awful and lived way too long. I could accept linda being allowed to live if we saw it was part of els plan to have her see el die so that she gives up looking, but we didn't get that scene.

I really dislike how the wall in the upside down was found by everyone this series, while in no other series was it scene by a single character.

The final battle against the mindflayer again felt like a good idea but just poorly done. There was no need for the group to be right under it's feet at the start. It's distracting how they should be dead at this point but no one even gets a cut. For how long some scenes took, it sure took the group zero seconds to climb to the top of the cliff side. El jumping into the mind flayer and yanking Henry out of place was cool. Having Joyce take off Henry's head was good, when I saw that axe the first thing I said to my partner is I hope they thanos henry with it.

Over all a really good show and a good ending. I just would say, given they had 4 years, there was a few too convenient moments this series that came out of no where (the mum blowing up the demo with those gas tanks and the tumble dryer being a perfect example) , and a few too many moments that could have been explained with a single line or a single action to make them make more sense.

I think I'll rewatch the series in a couple weeks, this time without any stupid gaps and see how I feel after a second viewing.

 

[Captain]

Finished it yesterday.

Episode 8 dragged on way too long, could have ended it an hour early at least.

 

[Manbatius]

Really enjoyed the season, finished last night.

I don't get loads of time for TV stuff these days.
Think 2025 was Alien Earth, Dexter, Welcome to Derry and this

Not quite sure what to watch now, especially as this series has been spread across many years.

 

[Mark1989]

Like many shows that become a culture hit and so popular an ending that pleases all is an impossible task.

I didn’t mind the ending or the season over all, I felt earlier seasons had better writing over all though.

I know there are plans for spin offs etc but I hope not anytime soon or not at all and they don’t happen.

I don’t say this from a negative place but this as its own entity over all is excelent.

Do we need prequels or spin offs when something gets big ? IMO no. Let something end, let it be remembered well not soured by a spin off.

That and well many spin off aren’t great usually cause the chasing something they can’t replicate at times wether that’s characters, story etc

I don’t need an answer for where the rock came from and how it connects etc I can make up my own theory for that and mystery isn’t always a bad thing

 

[Donnie Fisher]

I'd agree. Whilst I don't think the ending of the series was as good perhaps I hoped it could be, I do at least feel somewhat satisfied that the story arcs pretty much rounded out and concluded without the tired trope of leaving blatant teasers for something else further down the line.

 

[unwashed potato!]

The feeling I have after a couple of days thought is that I'm gutted to not have had a proper decisive answer for elevens ending.

I know we don't know what any character does going forward, maybe hop and Joyce do move to the beach, maybe Mike finds a new love, maybe Jonathan and Nancy get back together, the show doesn't give us those answers, but we get a direction for each of our main characters and a glimpse at the chance of happiness that they now have. Eleven it's up to us to decide if we believe or not, but no idea if she actually has a chance of survival or if she gave up and killed herself.

If you put look at her death, it would suggest Mike's version is the close to the truth, as how could she sneak out that truck unnoticed, how could she use her powers if those machines were on and if they work across our land to the upside down etc.

Depending how well this prequel spin off goes, I can see a 6th season being made set 10 years in the future (takes them that long to film a new season right) or a new series altogether set way in the future kind of like how IT does it with the kids in the firs half and then full grown adults in the second, where el comes back along with some of the rest of the cast.

 

[here2018]

Just finished episode 3 & so far it's a bore fest.

Too much irrelevant dialogue & very little action.

It feels like it's been made for the woke brigade

 

[martos123]

I thought the final season was pretty good and gave a conclusion to the "campaign". Yes, the last hour of episode 8 could have been condensed, but it wasnt awfule watching.

As far as concluding a long running series it did better than a lot (i'm looking at you GoT and Lost...) and they were never going to appease the internet. Overall it was a very good show that tapped into pop culture well enough without turning into fan fiction.