Stranger Things (Netflix)

adam cool dude said:
Reality is it should have been left after season 2 where eleven closed the gate and went to the school dance and live out her life in normality.
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Couldn't agree more, that would have been the perfect ending and we'd have been left with a 10/10 two season series for the ages.
 
unwashed potato! said:
I've held the belief since the hobbit came out that to create good art, it's not to give someone freedom but in fact to put someone in a box. What i mean by that is that Peter Jackson, or the duffers, for LOTR/stranger things season 1, would have had a tight budget, and had to make every penny count. They wouldn't have been able to as much reshoots so scenes had to be filmed right the first time and not changed midway/weeks later and reshot. So they would have had to plan and plan and plan, and really make sure their ideas were as fully formed as possible.

Then they had huge success, and then we're given essentially blank cheques to make the hobbit/season 5.

No one to stop them, no one to say that's too expensive, no one to say no we can't rewrite the script on the day.

And as a result you end up with bland uncreative work that feels almost like the idea in their head on that day.

I was defending season 5 while we hadn't seen the full season but now that it's out and done, I am really disappointed and feel let down. Seeing the making of has only made it worse.
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Couldn't agree more.
 
Shamikebab said:
Disagree completely. Season 3 and 4 were both better than Season 2.
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Oh I agree they were great as an individual piece and season 4 was really good, not so much 3 though. It was more with regards to the story line.

Series 2 had the best ending imo and they should have left it there as a story.
 
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unwashed potato! said:
I've held the belief since the hobbit came out that to create good art, it's not to give someone freedom but in fact to put someone in a box. What i mean by that is that Peter Jackson, or the duffers, for LOTR/stranger things season 1, would have had a tight budget, and had to make every penny count. They wouldn't have been able to as much reshoots so scenes had to be filmed right the first time and not changed midway/weeks later and reshot. So they would have had to plan and plan and plan, and really make sure their ideas were as fully formed as possible.

Then they had huge success, and then we're given essentially blank cheques to make the hobbit/season 5.

No one to stop them, no one to say that's too expensive, no one to say no we can't rewrite the script on the day.

And as a result you end up with bland uncreative work that feels almost like the idea in their head on that day.

I was defending season 5 while we hadn't seen the full season but now that it's out and done, I am really disappointed and feel let down. Seeing the making of has only made it worse.
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If you knew anything about the absolute state New Line execs and the pressure they put Peter Jackson under, you would know its not the same as the others.
 
cu3ed said:
Yea, too much to go into here, but certainly nothing to do with to high budgets, New Line did the franchise real real dirty with it and Jackson. A pretty sad read when you know how much time and passion Jackson put into the LOTR.
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Yeah I know of the issues Jackson faced with the hobbit, limited time in particular was the biggest issue. Money and freedom to me don't appear to be the issue but he wasn't given time before hand to finalise what he was making
 
Have the last (2hr!!!) episode to go. Hot damn this has been awful. So much exposition, nonsense ideas and long boring, tearful conversations. Steve's decent, the best actor i mean - the other 'kids' are terrible. This season is a 4/10 so far and don't expect things to improve. What a slog.
 
I’ve delayed watching it to let the dust settle. Was probably the weakest of all the season but I still enjoyed it.

Almost a decade for 5 seasons. Feel a little bit sad that I now have one less show I enjoy to watch.
 
Didnt like Season 5 at all really. Very underwhelming; bad acting, boring over-long conversations padding out already long episodes, forced emotions and flood of tears all the bloody time (i honestly couldn't tell if Lucas was sweating buckets or crying when Max woke up, his whole face was wet!). Finale was pretty weak after all the years of buildup. I'd give it a 4/10. Would have been better if some of the characters bit the dust, give it a bit more weight - seems like the writers bottled it so that in a few years they can all come back when they need the extra cash.

Steve and Vecna actors were standouts. Winona Ryder should just give it up..unconvincing is putting it nicely. Im sure several of this cast won't be hear or seen in anything decent again.
 
I thought it was OK, not stand out, but a decent enough end to the series. They did better than a few other final series.
 
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TonTom said:
I finally decided to start the last series. I’m struggling to get into it, 5 eps in and it’s poor.
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I’m finding it a real slog to watch, it’s taken me weeks to get to episode 6

Eleven’s none existent facial expressions are comical and there’s just too much going on
 
So I'm a bit late here :)

Watched the 8 episodes over the last few months, kept on putting off watching the last Ep8 as did havn't over 2hrs available, but got round to watching it last night.

So do I have this correct, there were 4 different worlds/dimensions

1) The real world (matrix)
2) The upside down was some sort of metauniverse version of the real world.. or as the the portal to the other planet.
3) Vecna's mind
4) The other planet where the flayer is.

And Henry became vecna by touching a stone (from I guess another planet) when he was a kid, which let him have contact with the flayer. All the other kids were generated from henry's blood, and linda hamilton was heading up a plan to start that whole thing again ?

I definitely dozed off during some of the Episodes, so I might have the above wrong.

In terms of the pacing, it feels like in the last 2 epsiodes probably 1 hr of the 3:15 was spent teasing out/completing relationships....far too much.

In terms of the characters, Linda Hamilton was simply there because she was Linda Hamilton. She brought nothing to the story. Also, I don't ever remember her being small, but in this she appeared tiny. And when did it become ok, in what is effectively a wholesome smalltown group fighting other worldly beings, for these wholsome small town people to kill scores of US soldiers ?, that felt badly off, i get it they were a force to be dealt with somehow, but hopper just point blank killing them at various times in the eps, and Elle doing it as well just puts a big negative on the characters.

This could have easily ended with Mike and Elle heading off into the middle of nowhere, but the fact they left the chance that Elle is alive is something, although I though it was pretty clear that the Dream creator (can remember her name) died.

I can see the central group of characters coming back in say 10 years time, as real adults this time, to effectively get the old band together. The Steve/Nancy "group beer" thing pretty much set up a scenario for this.
 
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