Street Fighter (SFIV, SSFIV, HDR)

C64 · 17 Feb 2016 at 13:10

Wilko_Dog said:
Ive been struggling to find a game been trying for a while , first time that I'm properly going to get into a street fighter game , the training mode is good to practice moves , although they seem hard to pull off every time with the thumbstick movements , are these easier with the proper fight joysticks ? Enjoying necali atm just learning all his moves etc, although I'll probably get my arse kicked when I do finally get online

No, why I don't play fighters like this the controls are too hard to master especially stuff like cancels etc you'll never be good at it unless you master hitting stuff like that consistently which is nigh on impossible on gamepad.

C64 · 17 Feb 2016 at 13:13

Wilko_Dog said:
Ah right I see ... Might stick with the pad for now then, fight sticks are ridiculously expensive anyway by the looks of it ! Have seen the alpha which is the cheapest but still £70 ... Charge moves ?
Also forgive me for being a noob but what is piano and plinking ?

Those fight pads look interesting wonder if they would be easier due to the r1 r2 being on the front

fightpads have garbage build quality steer clear

example i had one and the rb went after a day I opened it up and it's literally a bit of sponge superglued to a non robust cheapest of the cheap plastic microswitch laughable build quality

R088ieS86 · 17 Feb 2016 at 13:42

Apparently the DPads on the Madcatz Pro pads are garbage, they need to be taken apart, parts filed down and then reassembled to make them half usable.

Wilko_Dog · 17 Feb 2016 at 13:52

Thanks for the info , think I'll give the fight pad a miss then ! Do you have a fight stick or you just not bother with fighters in general ? Can imagine them being a lot more durable then the ds4 but there just too damn expensive

R088ieS86 · 17 Feb 2016 at 14:09

I have too many fight sticks

Wilko_Dog · 17 Feb 2016 at 14:16

I'll happily take a functioning one for the ps4 off your hands

ShortWarning · 17 Feb 2016 at 14:22

What about the hori mkx fight pads? Does anyone have experience with them?

I'm looking to pick up a fightpad of sorts.

e36Adz · 17 Feb 2016 at 14:39

Good to see a revival of this thread and some familiar names back

Kreeeee thanks for the beta, I managed to play it for about 10 mins a few weeks ago. I'll get this at some point just for the ocuk tourneys if anything. Where's Art? Secretly practising I'll bet..

Kreeeee · 17 Feb 2016 at 14:40

jubei said:
Disagree, would be better to have tight combos as well as other aspects. No need to dumb the game down for the people that cant pull off the harder combos as there are always easier combos they can do. Hard links gave you something to work towards and felt rewarding in sf4.

The charge characters have just-frame combos if you want to play like a man

e36Adz said:
Kreeeee thanks for the beta

You're welcome!

If I wanted to play on a pad I'd get an XBox One controller for SFV. The D-pad is ace and not having 6 face buttons is no longer an issue as you don't need triple punch/kick any more and that frees up the 7th and 8th buttons for dedicated vtrigger and v skill buttons.

Wilko_Dog · 17 Feb 2016 at 15:01

On the ps4 l1 and l2 do the triple punch and kick combos , arse these not needed ? I thought if you pressed all 3 when doing a v skill move it does more damage ?

R088ieS86 · 17 Feb 2016 at 15:03

Kreeeee said:
If I wanted to play on a pad I'd get an XBox One controller for SFV. The D-pad is ace and not having 6 face buttons is no longer an issue as you don't need triple punch/kick any more and that frees up the 7th and 8th buttons for dedicated vtrigger and v skill buttons.

You can plink lp & 3K for tech/alpha counter OS

ShortWarning · 17 Feb 2016 at 15:40

It's a real pain in the bum my ps3 wireless madcatz controller doesn't work. It authenticates fine but none of the buttons work.

ColEx · 17 Feb 2016 at 15:53

Is the TE-S+ for PS4 a good stick to buy?

I also want to know what the differences are between TE-2+ AND TE-S+ apart from being able to open up the TE-2+ with ease to swap out parts etc.

Do they both use the same quality Sanwa parts?

R088ieS86 · 17 Feb 2016 at 16:03

Both use Sanwa JLFs, buttons and the same PCB internally.
The Shell is the only difference really.
TE2 you can swap artwork easier and has a detachable USB cable, its quite a bit heavier than the TES as well.

Kreeeee · 17 Feb 2016 at 16:06

R088ieS86 said:
You can plink lp & 3K for tech/alpha counter OS

You just press them at the same time, no need to plink for that OS.

R088ieS86 · 17 Feb 2016 at 16:12

Kreeeee said:
You just press them at the same time, no need to plink for that OS.

Does that work? I thought if you do that you got throw everytime.
Must give that a try.

robgmun · 17 Feb 2016 at 16:50

Going to give survival another go tonight, doing Chun-Li i crushed easy in no time, but in normal i got to stage 27 and then zangief suddenly turned up the heat and thrashed me, seemed a bit of a difficultly spike that caught me by surprise

Kreeeee · 17 Feb 2016 at 17:17

R088ieS86 said:
Does that work? I thought if you do that you got throw everytime.
Must give that a try.

It works if you do it on the frame you're hit.

Kreeeee · 17 Feb 2016 at 17:24

robgmun said:
Going to give survival another go tonight, doing Chun-Li i crushed easy in no time, but in normal i got to stage 27 and then zangief suddenly turned up the heat and thrashed me, seemed a bit of a difficultly spike that caught me by surprise

Use these combos, depending on what meter you have:

No meter: df.hk, c.hp, lk.legs, c.lp, lk.sbk

Super: df.hk, c.hp, lk.legs, c.lp, lk.legs, super

V-Trigger: df.hk, c.hp, VT, c.hp, lk.legs, c.lp, c.mk, mk.sbk

V-Trigger (active): df.hk, c.hp, lk.legs, c.lp, c.mk, mk.sbk

V-Trigger & Super: df.hk, c.hp, VT, c.hp, lk.legs, c.lp, c.mk, hk.legs, super

V-Trigger (active) & Super: df.hk, c.hp, lk.legs, c.lp, c.mk, hk.legs, super

I've avoided the more damaging hard combos in there that require just-frame timing to do.

The AI is bugged and cannot ever beat df.hk so it's a free win. Every character has tricks like these.

robgmun · 17 Feb 2016 at 19:52

Awesome Kreeeee, i'll give them a go