Street Fighter (SFIV, SSFIV, HDR)

chef-borjan · 18 Feb 2016 at 20:10

I'd say if you are a newbie to fighting games, the barebones nature of the release means it's tough to enjoy.

But if you are a fighting game enthusiast, then barring the server issues that seem intermittent at the moment, you can enjoy this game playing online.

vian_siu · 18 Feb 2016 at 20:11

i will do a detailed review later. but my general thought is this is much better than sf4 but not as good marvel 3. if thats all the people comparing to. and if you think easier combo really make you lose more game, than you should take a look at how you got hit in the first place.

elrasho · 18 Feb 2016 at 20:21

Played a few game and man it's a yawnfest. It's just block block block... attacke and hope it hits..... bait... block block block....

edit: thn you get that one game where the other guys animations dont show so one second he's moving backwards then all of a sudden he's jumping in

Syph · 18 Feb 2016 at 20:46

I've enjoyed a few online games, though I'm not a good player by any stretch. Playing with FANG as all I ever do is choose Ryu and go from there.

However, the wait between matches is excruciating at times. That makes it hard to get into.

It has the potential to be a really good iteration of the game. The characters, to me, all feel very playable. I couldn't bare to play as some of the SFIV cast, especially charge characters. It's just all so empty and disconnected, often literally, that I can see why it's had so much flak.

Kreeeee · 18 Feb 2016 at 21:12

Lodjik said:
People were saying exactly the same in '09 re 3rd Strike. I'm finding it quite good for a vanilla iteration.

Cavallino said:
Im sure you said something along these lines about SFIV when it came out lol.
Ever the voice of Optimism K

(In fairness Ive not tried this yet so cant comment!)

Did I hear right that this will not work with certain arcade sticks?

Game mechanics is not the point being discussed.

Online play not working (now partially fixed), still not able to play against friends, many PC issues (less stick support than SFIV, crashing, unable to boot, poor performance on top hardware), lack of content (story mode, challenge modes, trials), no lobby system (1v1 only) etc.

It's pathetic to launch a bare bones game like this these days, and the damage has already been done. Halo 5 is a great game at its core, but lack of launch content has destroyed its user base, and this is exactly the same in that respect.

Kreeeee · 18 Feb 2016 at 21:17

vian_siu said:
if you think easier combo really make you lose more game, than you should take a look at how you got hit in the first place.

I don't think there's a single person who feels that way.

Syph · 18 Feb 2016 at 21:21

Kreeeee said:
Game mechanics is not the point being discussed.

Online play not working (now partially fixed), still not able to play against friends, many PC issues (less stick support than SFIV, crashing, unable to boot, poor performance on top hardware), lack of content (story mode, challenge modes, trials), no lobby system (1v1 only) etc.

It's pathetic to launch a bare bones game like this these days, and the damage has already been done. Halo 5 is a great game at its core, but lack of launch content has destroyed its user base, and this is exactly the same in that respect.

Worst still for some of this, that you have to go and search and dig to find out this is the case.

Would it really be so difficult to layout the obvious ones - playing against friends, why the shop etc is 'off' and lobbies as a global announcement? My brother and I spent an age before we had the nous between us to check why we couldn't fight. We had it down to being cross-platform issues, then lounge issues... All could've been avoided with an announcement, surely?

What I do find a massive pain is that the modes need online to verify fight money. Why can't it just store progress until next login? I daren't play survival aside from Easy mode because I can't imagine the pad throwing frustration of a disconnect on Fight 49.

/edit: makes me feel like the Beta was purely to hype the game. Stuff that should've been fixed like the boob physics, clipping, just wasn't. So why have a beta?! It hasn't prepared servers or the like.

Kreeeee · 18 Feb 2016 at 21:42

Yep, a truly embarrassing launch. Rushing it out for a tournament will have hurt them a lot in the long run.

R088ieS86 · 18 Feb 2016 at 23:28

elrasho said:
Played a few game and man it's a yawnfest. It's just block block block... attacke and hope it hits..... bait... block block block....

edit: thn you get that one game where the other guys animations dont show so one second he's moving backwards then all of a sudden he's jumping in

Surely you can't complain, Rashid's eagle spike is unblockable when the lag sets in!

Kreeeee · 19 Feb 2016 at 00:04

Rashid has amazing aggression. He's definitely one character where the opponent blocking too much isn't a problem.

Safe pressure for free chip, a great overhead that can combo on counter hit, dirty mixups and great zoning.

Fallen god · 19 Feb 2016 at 00:34

Kreeeee said:
Game mechanics is not the point being discussed.

Online play not working (now partially fixed), still not able to play against friends, many PC issues (less stick support than SFIV, crashing, unable to boot, poor performance on top hardware), lack of content (story mode, challenge modes, trials), no lobby system (1v1 only) etc.

It's pathetic to launch a bare bones game like this these days, and the damage has already been done. Halo 5 is a great game at its core, but lack of launch content has destroyed its user base, and this is exactly the same in that respect.

Stream Greenlight

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But on a serious note been keeping an eye on the forum as I was hyped for a fighting game, not played anything seriously since Tekken 6 on PS3 which is forever ago now. Hoping things improve though.

Kreeeee · 19 Feb 2016 at 00:53

I'm not sure what stream greenlight means.

antijoke · 19 Feb 2016 at 07:36

I assume he means this is an early access game, like games on steam green light.

elrasho · 19 Feb 2016 at 08:19

Kreeeee said:
Rashid has amazing aggression. He's definitely one character where the opponent blocking too much isn't a problem.

Safe pressure for free chip, a great overhead that can combo on counter hit, dirty mixups and great zoning.

His overhead gets stuffed if they mash cr.lp

R088ieS86 · 19 Feb 2016 at 08:33

elrasho said:
His overhead gets stuffed if they mash cr.lp

Haha, all overheads do. all of Cammy's dive kicks do as well.

Most people aren't confirming off of jab atm. except Nash players.
Comes back from the dead and is now s ranked. ugh.

Kreeeee · 19 Feb 2016 at 09:22

elrasho said:
His overhead gets stuffed if they mash cr.lp

That's why you have to use your noggin and train them not to mash clp with counter hit setups.

There's no mindless autopilot in this game.

Jase · 19 Feb 2016 at 09:47

Well I have to say I'm useless at this I just can't get used to it.

I had two fights online this morning and although against unranked players they were lvl 190+ and pulled off specials/combos from the very start, don't think I even hit one guy.

Without any single player I'm finding this very hard if not impossible to learn.

Wilko_Dog · 19 Feb 2016 at 09:54

I think it's a really good fighting game , but it is lacking in content , which I don't mind though I just bought it to fight online even though I'm getting panned every time haha .... Every game that launches now is un-finished , the ability to patch has made developers lazy , or greedy because they just want to get the game out , I know this game has been rushed to allow for a pro tour though so I guess for this one instance it's different

R088ieS86 · 19 Feb 2016 at 10:27

Jase said:
I had two fights online this morning and although against unranked players they were lvl 190+ and pulled off specials/combos from the very start, don't think I even hit one guy.

It just means they have rinsed story mode. levelling up via online is slow whilst story mode gives you a huge boost. complete them all and you will be lvl 180+
Which character are giving a go?

Jase · 19 Feb 2016 at 11:05

R088ieS86 said:
It just means they have rinsed story mode. levelling up via online is slow whilst story mode gives you a huge boost. complete them all and you will be lvl 180+
Which character are giving a go?

I have been playing Cammy, I thought her moves looked fun.

I've just read that it may be a good idea to start with Ryu as he's a 'basic' character. I suppose I could give that a go.

I've been in training mode and struggling with some of the moves, for instance the Z movement, cant workthat out. I can do the fireball move (quarter circle down) no problem but have yet to work out how to trigger the special which is, quarter circle, quarter circle and Kick (or punch). Maybe I'm not doing it quick enough or something but it's annoying!