Caporegime
Ultimately this will happen until the cost to shareholders and investors from strikes exceeds the cost of paying them more.
Strikes at Gatwick
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One bag is the way to go tbh, so much quicker and easier. No risk of your stuff going missing either.
Salaries would rise to attract more people into the job. This is exactly what happened with lorry drivers after Brexit when a lot of previous drivers went home. There was a temporary shortage of workers in that industry so wages increased significantly to attract more people.
This is exactly what I do. I take a 30L backpack wherever I go. I refuse to take anything larger. I even took it on a business trip earlier in the year. A colleague who was also using only carry on was still asked to check their rolling suitcase as there wasn't enough room in the overhead bins. But as I only had a backpack they ignored me and I just put it under the seat. Ultralight and onebag are the way to go.
I look back on my early 20's and I was dragging a huge suitcase around the world and still struggling to get everything in. It did get damaged once. Now I make do with a small backpack and only take essentials.
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Soldato
The people striking are 'Joe Public'.
Soldato
...and showed the effects foreign drivers had on wages in the UK. Companies were able to pay overseas drivers, mainly eastern European, lower wage rates, keeping them low over here.
It was worth price rises in some retail sectors for British drivers to attract a reasonable wage.
Yes. The negative side of it was that it contributed to inflation. But it absolutely did show that wages had been kept low due to cheaper foreign labour. I'm not arguing for or against the EU/Brexit here. Just agreeing that membership had kept wages down.
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Even as a family of 4 now we try where we can to travel with hand luggage only. Sure the liquids thing is a pain but often we just buy toiletries when we arrive or past security. Only time we check one bag in is for longer holidays where we don't have access to a washing machine. That said that's rarely the case.
Since we will be taking 4 carry on regardless it's easy enough to pack light enough between the 4 of us. That said training my wife to be more frugal with her packing is tough! Also winter holidays are trickier as generally we need more clothes, so again likely to check in a bag at that point.
I don't care about strikes. If the companies weren't so profit driven and actually gave a **** about their people this wouldn't happen.
Since we will be taking 4 carry on regardless it's easy enough to pack light enough between the 4 of us. That said training my wife to be more frugal with her packing is tough! Also winter holidays are trickier as generally we need more clothes, so again likely to check in a bag at that point.
I don't care about strikes. If the companies weren't so profit driven and actually gave a **** about their people this wouldn't happen.
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Inflation hurts. People need more money to live so demand higher wages. Companies put up prices to compensate. Rinse and repeat.
Most jobs have similar poor pay, those that do pay better don't have unlimited hiring potential.
Not everyone can be a "VP of marketing", "HR manager" or whatever useless title pays better. They weren't the essential workers during covid, were they?
People will still have to do these jobs, so "get a better job" doesn't actually solve the issue of **** jobs with **** pay existing. Unless we just shut down every shop, airport, restaurant etc.
No?
£12 an hour * 37.5h (full time) is £450 pre tax, £383 post tax. Min wage is £10.42, which is £342 a week take home.
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Soldato
Let’s just hope you all have a great captain !
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Airport staff are quite unionised and to a degree very susceptible to them. Staff turnover is very high and it can take upto three months to get candidates vetted for airside passes - this i believe is the bigger part of the problem.
Pilot helps crew load luggage on plane as travel chaos continues at UK airports
The clip taken ahead of a flight from Edinburgh Airport comes amid ongoing disruption at UK airports over the past few months, as airlines struggle with a shortage in workers and a rise in demand
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Airport staff are quite unionised and to a degree very susceptible to them. Staff turnover is very high and it can take upto three months to get candidates vetted for airside passes - this i believe is the bigger part of the problem.
Soldato
So basically what striking does?
Yes but with a better payrise and without affecting innocent customers.
Of course it affects ‘innocent customers’. See recent HGV drivers issue. See all the flight capacity issues Heathrow has had in the last year, that was entirely down to the failure to recruit and train enough staff and high levels of turnover. An absolute bucket load of flights were cancelled daily for months.
Soldato
With a user name like yours, you need to get your ass back onto the club scene. It's kicking off this year with 90s franchises stepping back up on home soil. Cream, Ministry of Sound, Flashback, Amnesia, Sundissential, Trancecoda (and Godskitchen late last year). Got 'em all booked and still looking for more
Caporegime
You don't think a mass exodus of staff would impact 'innocent customers'?
Possibly, short term, in the same way that my example of lorry drivers caused some short term inconvenience. Once it becomes a trend then wages would rise to stop it.
No, it’s not short term. Strikes are short term, they last days or weeks.
Prolonged recruitment and retention issues last for months or years. Just look at Heathrow and all the issues they had last year and early this year for exactly this point. Thousands of flights were cancelled every day for 6 months and then there was a smaller number of cancellations for another 6 months. It basically impacted a years worth of flights that had already been scheduled that couldn’t be delivered.
They are still not operational at full capacity because they don’t have the staff.
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i realise on average it is above the minimum wage but i thought if you lived in London you got an increase on top. I wasnt sure however which is why i asked the question.
whilst £12 an hr is a livable wage in Hull i can accept that london would be a different beast entirely.... and whilst you could use the argument dont live in london then, and that may even work for office jobs where WFH is supported, for manual jobs that isnt the case.
Caporegime
Just commute from Hull to Gatwick, EZ