Stuttering in ALL games ideas?

Efour · 14 Aug 2016 at 21:54

My New Pc is stuttering... So far I've noticed it in Goat Simulator and Civilisation 5

Specs.

6700k @ 4600mhz, 16gb ram at 3000mhz, ASUS Z170 PRO GAMING,
MSI 780GTX. Windows 10. Sata3 6G SSDs are where the games are installed.

This is a 40s clip for Goat simulator ( on special offer this weekend couldn't resist)

The first time the goat gets hit by the car i experience a slight lag/pause.
Fps dropped from a locked? 62 down to 54

At the end of the video the game essential locks up FPS drops down to 0 reawakens at 30fps then recovers back to 62 next frame.

I dunno why but shadowplay didn't record the overlays.

Latest graphics drivers from Nvidia. Im using onboard sound. But i have a Soundblaster Titanium PCIe available.

Something is causing a very slight delay when the sound is processed of the goat hitting the car?

Googling issues like this don't really help "its the ram or your PSU are not powerful enough are the usual answers" Im confident that both are sufficient

Really please anyone got any bloody help im gonna try more games to see if i can replicate this further.

Efour · 14 Aug 2016 at 23:16

I've reset EVERYTHING in the bios to default

and still experiencing the issues...

Im very confused.

Efour · 15 Aug 2016 at 00:05

New BIOS is available I guess I'll try tomorrow combined with some os reinstalling

churchhawk · 15 Aug 2016 at 09:28

You defiantly have something wrong...my neice plays that game on my x58/system 980ti and x5670 and it runs smooth as silk with no stutter.... Does it do the same if you turn Down the settings to minimum?

Also does it stutter on other games?

Efour · 15 Aug 2016 at 11:08

I noticed it in civ 5 as a units attack animation and sound effects begin there is a very slight pause.

I guess it's going to be driver related. I have noticed the gfx and a sound device share a same irq.

I also tried it in world of warships but noticed nothing.

I guess I'll begin exploring this conflict. Turn off onboard sound or change the pcie slot on the 780.

I foresee a future of formatting and reinstalling ahead. I hope it's something trivial.
Is there any software I can run that will be able to report back what's causing the minute bottleneck?

mattpj · 15 Aug 2016 at 11:56

Hi there I have a very similar issue and it's completely bugging me. I even upgraded my GFX thinking that was the issue (760 to 1060)

I came across a video that claimed to fix this and it does appear to be a sound thing - for example when I smash into a car on Mad Max the same thing happens as in your clip.

They suggested getting an SFX card or going to you sound settings > speakers > advanced > and then clicking off both selected toggle boxes about application exclusivity.

Try the above software one to see if it helps? Let me know if you solve it. I don't mind buying a new SFX card but I'm not fussed if it doesn't solve it.

All the best Efour!

Efour · 15 Aug 2016 at 13:02

Hmmm interesting. I do hope it's that easy.
I'll report back later.

mattpj · 15 Aug 2016 at 13:57

Efour said:
Hmmm interesting. I do hope it's that easy.
I'll report back later.

Yeah me too. I've got a lot of issues to clear up yet. I'm on a 2xXeon quad setup with DDr2 ram at 667mhz, so that will be causing a bottleneck.

HazardO · 15 Aug 2016 at 15:47

Try a DPC latency checker, you may just have a misbehaving driver.

puppetworx · 15 Aug 2016 at 16:07

Maybe this is to do with Deferred Procedure Call which has been in the news recently:
http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/geforce-hot-fix-driver-version-368-95-download.html
http://techreport.com/blog/30506/re-examining-the-unusual-frame-time-results-in-our-radeon-rx-470-review

Looks like there is a tool you can use to test your system.

Efour · 15 Aug 2016 at 19:25

updated bios
had a firmware upgrade for an SSD.

DPC latency checker its deffo saying there are issues. This is all new to me so i dont wanna go bonkers on it but there's deffo something wrong.

They are pointing to Direct X stuff and the Nvidia driver.

Its starting to look like a format C and start from scratch with that latest beta Nvidia driver and turning off onboard sound which seems to share the same IRQ as my x16 PCIE and another motherboard device.... This is far from ideal.

Doogles · 15 Aug 2016 at 19:28

I'd just use Guru DDU and do a full wipe of the Nvidia drivers first, if that doesn't fix it a full reinstall of windows will help because that will reinstall DX from scratch.

Efour · 15 Aug 2016 at 19:55

Aye will do. I'm looking for my USB drive with win 10 on by I really CBA... I love computers but I hate them too sometimes

I just got a windows update from 10809 or something to 14908 or something wtf is this all about.

Seems mine hasn't updated since launch day?

Efour · 15 Aug 2016 at 20:30

obliterating the nvidia driver did nothing. Time to try the audio stuff and try the soundblaster.

mattpj · 15 Aug 2016 at 20:46

Efour said:
obliterating the nvidia driver did nothing. Time to try the audio stuff and try the soundblaster.

Ah I'm just catching up and saw that there was some more steps you were taking.

Hoping this will be a solution for you.

mattpj · 15 Aug 2016 at 23:13

Efour said:
updated bios
had a firmware upgrade for an SSD.

DPC latency checker its deffo saying there are issues. This is all new to me so i dont wanna go bonkers on it but there's deffo something wrong.

They are pointing to Direct X stuff and the Nvidia driver.

Its starting to look like a format C and start from scratch with that latest beta Nvidia driver and turning off onboard sound which seems to share the same IRQ as my x16 PCIE and another motherboard device.... This is far from ideal.

I'm seeing the same issues on Latency mon - D3D and Nvidia driver. I'm going try disable some stuff see if it works. Otherwise I'll be trying a new sound card dependent on what you discover next.

Sin_Chase · 16 Aug 2016 at 00:54

I had incurable DPC latency issues which I did a format for. *shrug*

Efour · 16 Aug 2016 at 05:04

Sin_Chase said:
I had incurable DPC latency issues which I did a format for. *shrug*

And it worked?
That's my next and last step really.

mattpj · 16 Aug 2016 at 12:08

Hey eFour - things some much better for me ingame when I have disabled my WLAN adapter. Which is just a wifi dongle I have in the back of my computer.

I might just have to get a wifi card instead.

Things aren't perfect - latencymon still saying I may have issues but I'm beyond figuring that out yet.

It's saying to check/disable CPU throttling but I have none of those options in my bios despite updating it.

Efour · 16 Aug 2016 at 13:07

What CPU is it? The xeon? I can't e en remember back to those days.

I'm gonna format and start again. Doesn't take too long these days.