Subway - Bacon-less rant!

yashiro said:
Just don't give subway your money and go somewhere else. All this Halal nonsense can gtfo.
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My family and friends don't, we demand glorious bacon. We also don't spend our money in Pizza Hut or KFC, or any of the other million or so religious fast food places around here.

Ultimately though, it means we tend to live healthier by eating less saturated fat :p
 
krooton said:
But most non-muslim people will still eat at a Halal Subway.

So it's a case of either removing 24% of the market by going non-Halal, or removing maybe 2% of people who won't eat Halal.

Simple numbers game is simple.
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Which is why there should be more awareness and more boycotting of Halal only restaurants as everyone deserves a choice.

I do not really want to eat Halal meat and I do certainly want to eat pork, especially bacon. I shouldn't be discriminated against any more than those who want Halal meat.

Fortunately I have a choice in my local area (in Subways at least). However, almost every take away of any variety around here is Halal and we get around 5-10 take away menus through the door each week and they're all Halal too, it's pretty annoying.

Everyone should have the right to eat the food that's prepared in the way they want, I just dislike that the restaurants are assuming most people aren't bothered over Halal and think they can add that without any loss of custom.
 
avec said:
we get around 5-10 take away menus through the door each week and they're all Halal too, it's pretty annoying.
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I get this too, they all go in the bin. Funny thing happened last week... Was cleaning the car, and fast food leaflet spammer starts walking up my drive, I ask "is it halal" to which they replied "yes", I said, "sorry, no thanks" to which they replied "I love rock bar"? What does this mean?
 
krooton said:
But most non-muslim people will still eat at a Halal Subway.

So it's a case of either removing 24% of the market by going non-Halal, or removing maybe 2% of people who won't eat Halal.

Simple numbers game is simple.
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I totally see what you are saying, but obviously they think that 24% is important.

You also have to remember the demographic of religion and skin colour doesn't dictate what the market for that local Subway is.

I live in an area of North London that is majority white, but it often doesn't look that way on the streets. I would imagine that due to working locally and having so many muslim owned businesses nearby to it, that my local Halal Subway probably makes a good deal of money from that market, rather than non-Muslims, who obviously are the majority but don't necessarily eat there.


At the end of the day, it all comes down to voting with your feet.
Simply don't eat there and/or write letters to their head office if it annoys you that much.
 
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With all this mindless muslim bashing in mind, there were very good reasons to avoid pigs in times of old:
Pigs can harbour a range of parasites and diseases that can be transmitted to humans. These include trichinosis, Taenia solium, cysticercosis, and brucellosis. Pigs are also known to host large concentrations of parasitic ascarid worms in their digestive tract.[14] The presence of these diseases and parasites is one reason pork meat should always be well cooked or cured before eating. Today, trichinellosis infections from eating pork are relatively uncommon, at least in the United States, due to more stringent health laws, better refrigeration, and public awareness of the dangers of eating undercooked meat.[15] Some religious groups that consider pork unclean refer to these issues as support for their views.[16]
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Fine, these days one can safely eat swine products if taken care of properly and well cooked. But we know that religions are slow to adapt, and further more traditions and cultures should rightly remain when they cause no harm.



As to the number of Halal sun-ways, purely economics. Furthermore, you are free to eat where you want and what you want, no one forces you to eat halal subway. You are also free to start up a non-halal subway if that is what you want.

Don't like the way it is, boycott all subways then. Cook your own bacon.
 
dave_beast said:
No, not really as my local environment is made up of 24% muslim, however 100% of my local Subways are halal only.

*snip*
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Probably a good thing if it makes you not want to go, as Subway isn't the greatest thing in the world for you. Out of purely academic interest, here is my local area:

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U mad, bro? :p
 
Nexus said:
I totally see what you are saying, but obviously they think that 24% is important.

You also have to remember the demographic of religion and skin colour doesn't dictate what the market for that local Subway is.

I live in an area of North London that is majority white, but it often doesn't look that way on the streets. I would imagine that due to working locally and having so many muslim owned businesses nearby to it, that my local Halal Subway probably makes a good deal of money from that market, rather than non-Muslims, who obviously are the majority but don't necessarily eat there.


At the end of the day, it all comes down to voting with your feet.
Simply don't eat there and/or write letters to their head office if it annoys you that much.
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That too. For all we know 80% of that Subways footfall comes from that 24%.

I'm also fairly sure that a greater number of non-Muslim people are willing to eat Halal food compared to non-Muslims who wouldn't.

Hell, most people in this country don't actually give a crap about how the animal the becomes their food is treated.
 
ilcp said:
However we kill them by the neck, and they die instantly because of severed artery = no blood to brain = no pain...
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Not true.

ilcp said:
plus as blood is considered to have diseases, this method make sures that all blood is drained...
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And not true.

Halal slaughter can be humane, if the animal is stunned first. However not all halal slaughter is done this way and there isn't any way of determining if it has been. A slit throat does not mean no pain and the animal is still distressed as the blood pours out. Much like you would be if someone slit your throat.

Slitting the throat does not ensure all the blood is drained (it would be pretty much impossible to ensure all the blood is drained due to the nature of blood supply). Cooking properly pretty much ensures that all diseases are destroyed.
 
avec said:
Which is why there should be more awareness and more boycotting of Halal only restaurants as everyone deserves a choice.

I do not really want to eat Halal meat and I do certainly want to eat pork, especially bacon. I shouldn't be discriminated against any more than those who want Halal meat.

Fortunately I have a choice in my local area (in Subways at least). However, almost every take away of any variety around here is Halal and we get around 5-10 take away menus through the door each week and they're all Halal too, it's pretty annoying.

Everyone should have the right to eat the food that's prepared in the way they want, I just dislike that the restaurants are assuming most people aren't bothered over Halal and think they can add that without any loss of custom.
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Where do you stand on vegetarian restaurants? Should they be boycotted as well?
 
spudbynight said:
Where do you stand on vegetarian restaurants? Should they be boycotted as well?
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Whilst I couldnt care less about this as I dont like bacon anyway, these sort of analogies are a bit ridiculous.

Subway is Subway. It's an international chain (albeit franchised). You get pretty much the same menu in every store you visit. Thats the point - its a uniform experience. It's half the point in a franchise, you run a business but benefit from the product range and custom of an established brand.

So a Subway not selling some of the Subway menu isn't the same as an Indian Restuarant not selling a beef curry. Walk into an Indian and you don't expect to be able to buy sausage and chips yet walk into a branch of Subway and you kinda do expect to be able to buy a Subway Club or whatever the sandwich with Bacon is called.

If you don't want to sell things like bacon then fair enough but it would seem that taking on a Subway franchise is a bit daft, i mean you wouldnt buy a KFC franchise if you didnt want to sell Chicken?
 
I find it strange that a religion with just under 5% of the population holds so much sway over many different areas of life.
 
kenmare said:
I find it strange that a religion with just under 5% of the population holds so much sway over many different areas of life.
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welcome to the world of business where the customer who votes with his wallet is pandered to the tard who keeps buying regardless is ignored.
 
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