22 people who didn't make it out of a concert alive would probably disagree with you.
This conversation about different "communities" reminds me of what Christopher Hitchens said in a video years ago....
"Cultural suicide. Don't let it happen to you. Don't let it happen where you live. Look at how wonderfully it worked in Northern Ireland when it was allowed to segregate Protestant and Catholic schools.
[Hitchens internal dialogue:] 'After all they have different faiths. Oh they do? I thought they were both Christians. I can't arbitrate between this. No, they should have separate schools which should never meet, never inter-marry. Never socialise.'
How beautifully that worked out. Now lets have it for Jews and Muslims on the mainland. Let them lie to their children and let them all give their special myth. Let them all say to them that they're different.
Not tell them that they're members of a civil society. Or a country. Or a nation. Let them denominate themselves by faith. Can't wait to see what happens. I think I know what's coming. I don't want my beloved country of birth to be turned into some ******* Lebanon by people of faith. I don't want it. I'm going to fight it too. And you should get ready to fight it when they try it in your case. Don't allow this, Putting the word faith in front of something is no excuse for barbarism and cruelty and ignorance and stupidity...."
My daughter goes to a Church of England school, where church attendance and religion is the main criteria for entry (apart from care needs). It classes itself as a faith school and they have prayers and get taught predominantly about Christianity in R. E.
This has been going on for hundreds of years in the UK. I'd be a hypocrite for saying that those of other religions can't also have their own faith based schools.
Narrow minded people will be narrow minded regardless of religion, ideology, culture and race.
People were segregating when Britain was all white and Christian. Middle class white people live in their own neighbourhoods. Working class white people live amongst themselves. Gangs had their own territory that other gangs weren't allowed into.
As always, you're making out like the majority of people are to blame for the actions of a minority.
What outweighs the bodycount?
A pretty tragic way of looking at it. The bomb wasn't carried out on behalf of all non-Christian, non-White religions. It was a religious nutter, acting as part of a small cell of other religious nutters.
Growing up around other cultures has taught me how there is no single world view, nor one right way of living your life. If everyone had the same mindset, there would be a hell of a let less conflict in the world.
Some of the most welcoming households I've ever been in are Pakistani, Muslim households. Every job I've ever had, had a mixture of cultures that made them far more interesting places to work.
The vast majority of 2nd generation migrants are pretty westernised anyway, and have similar values and aspirations to us. For most of my friends who are from a different ethnicity or culture, it's mainly about making enough money to buy themselves a nice car, house or whatever else. They are more westernised and capitalist than me.
Like anything, the media are good at making out like a small number of bad apples represents the whole orchard.
Really positives? Like what? The Jews live in their area the Pakistanis live in their area with very little "integration". Only good thing about multiculturalism is I can get a decent curry on a Saturday night. Point is people don't want integrate they just want to be in their own little communitys with no interest in what happens outside of said community.
I've spent my whole life in Manchester and 99% of the trouble I've encountered or witnessed has been by white British people. Even when it's not, black on black or brown on brown violence is far more common than black on white or brown on white.
Look at places like Wigan, Tyldesley, Atherton, Leigh. They have hideous drug, poverty and violence problems and are predominantly white British. None of the problems there are due to immigration or different religions. There's a murder there almost every week and always a working class white guy that commits it.
The orthodox Jews may not integrate much but they are friendly and harmless. The area they live in is so relatively small in the grand scheme of things that it has no impact on my life, and I live less than 2 miles away. How people can be so bothered about Jewish areas, when they live hundreds of miles away, I don't know.
White British people live in their own enclaves too. I'd argue us brits are quite possibly the worst at integration out of everyone.
