Summer Transfer Window 2013/2014 aka Arsenal , we can afford folks and the mancs really want Fellani

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fez said:
The only reason for it would be his apparent unhappiness at Madrid and the fact that they won't want to let him run down his contract any more. He has 2 years left and they will either have to accept a lowish offer next year or let him go for free the year after.

He is a huge drain wages wise I would think and they are trying to get Bale. I still doubt very much that it will happen but I live in hope.

If he does leave, the pressure on Bale to take his place and replicate his form will be immense.
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He has said himself he loved it at Utd and would like to go back, so who knows! Would be great for Utd with the Asian marketing/image alone :)
 
The Running Man said:
Suarez should be suing his agent or his advisors then if he wanted a release clause but didn't get one. Afterall, I doubt suarez would have read every term and condition in his contract.
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Agreed (I know!).

Suarez's agent made a contract between him and the club. If his agent failed to do so correctly, it's his agent who is liable to him.
 
drunkenmaster said:
I don't see why Suarez can't take them to court, it would seem to most people who are capable of thinking about it without bias... that no player would ever want a clause which allowed them to talk to a club after a certain offer, but not have that offer excepted. It is 100% useless, so the situation becomes, did Liverpool fiddle the wording slightly so at a fairly normal glance you would assume it to be a completely standard release clause. Later on when someone offers it, you read it and realise that its writen in a way that doesn't say they have to accept the offer, just let the player talk to the club.

As said no player EVER would gain anything at all in any way by a release clause where the fee doesn't actually trigger a "release". : .
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Would it not allow a player to listen to a potentials clubs proposal and salary offer before handing in a transfer request? that would be my interpretation.
 
Mr.Pink said:
Would it not allow a player to listen to a potentials clubs proposal and salary offer before handing in a transfer request? that would be my interpretation.
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A transfer request doesn't do an awful lot of anything, it can reduce the effective price as it usually means a player isn't due their loyalty payments, but it doesn't force the club to sell. It's not in the players interest to put in a transfer request as you lose money. So ultimately a release clause that both doesn't cause a release, and at best might lead to putting in a transfer request that loses you money... when everyone else has a standard release clause that means the club accept and you get your loyalty payments.

Contracts are a negotiation, lets say Ronaldo, he signs an insane wage deal with a huge wage rise and also has a 1billion buy out clause, it means Real have secured him. He could turn down that clause, but the club are less willing to pay him so highly as with a sensible clause for Ronaldo, say 100mil, they might lose him and have to pay out a huge loyalty payment. So to get a lower release clause they would concede elsewhere, lower wages, lower bonuses, etc, etc.

Having a lower and sensible release clause put into the contract that the club can't refuse would almost certainly also come with a negative point for Suarez, IE we want to leave if someone offers 40mil, we'll take lower wages to have that clause in.

In what negotiation does putting in a clause that doesn't help him leave the club make sense at all but also likely came with a down side, none is the answer. He's getting precisely nothing out of that "release" clause, and both Liverpool and Suarez are calling it a release clause. Classic bait and switch if you ask me, show them a contract, they read through it, just before signing someone says "wow, look at the boobs on her", Suarez's guys all turn around and LIverpool guys switch the contract for one with a crippled release clause ;)
 
That comeback against Napoli has made Wenger pretty confident:

Arsene Wenger believes Arsenal can win the Premier League title - even if they fail to lure Luis Suarez from Liverpool

Wenger's pursuit of Suarez looks to have stalled since the Reds rejected a second improved bid of just over £40m, with boss Brendan Rodgers declaring the Uruguayan to be worth a sum nearer to the £100m touted for Tottenham's Gareth Bale.

The Gunners have signed only France U20 forward Yaya Sanogo on a free transfer but Wenger was defiant when asked if he felt his squad, as it was, could challenge the likes of Manchester United, Chelsea and Manchester City.

"Yes, of course. I am confident. Why should I sit here and say to you we can absolutely not win the title with the players we have?" said Wenger, speaking after Saturday's pre-season 2-2 draw with Napoli in the Emirates Cup.

Wenger refused to talk explicitly about Arsenal's continued attempt to snare Suarez, instead repeating his determination to keep transfer dealings private.

"I never said we have made a bid to Liverpool, now I can tell you we have made one, so at least that is some information. All the rest, I would like to keep to us," the Frenchman added.
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http://www1.skysports.com/football/...rsenal-title-tilt-with-or-without-luis-suarez
 
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LOL its the usual stuff he comes out every year when he doesnt spend any money, we have a strong squad along with i have faith in my players etc etc.

Tbf if we start with the same consistency we showed during the run in to the season just gone, i think we will be ok but we are a far ways off winning trophies or challenging for them properly.

As for us getting Suarez??...cant see us getting him and things have gone quiet on that front now too.


I only see the PL title going to either Chelsea or City this year.
 
Yas786 said:
LOL its the usual stuff he comes out every year when he doesnt spend any money, we have a strong squad along with i have faith in my players etc etc.

Tbf if we start with the same consistency we showed during the run in to the season just gone, i think we will be ok but we are a far ways off winning trophies or challenging for them properly.

As for us getting Suarez??...cant see us getting him and things have gone quiet on that front now too.


I only see the PL title going to either Chelsea or City this year.
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Yeah the squad is pretty good but why not enhance our chances and add to the squad. A few injuries or suspensions and our team suddenly looks weak.

Same old excuses every year. Even the Arsenal players have been shouting for new signings this summer. He is going to end up with a few unknown players on the last day. Then we have to wait until Christmas before they settle, then the title is already over. :(
 
Bale is staying avb said once again

AVB said he's not for sale and we are buying players to take us forward with him. He also said Ancelloti shouldnt have said anything
AVB - "We signed an agreement last year, of good will and respect. We're not willing to concede to their tactics about the player"
 
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AVB would not act a puppet for Levy and lie.

If AVB has also been told he is definitely not for sale, Levy CAN'T go and sell him... He knows this would be absolute betrayal and ruin all relations.

This changes a lot.


Get on with it bale modric did for another year
 
BloodZeed said:
Bale is staying avb said once again

AVB said he's not for sale and we are buying players to take us forward with him. He also said Ancelloti shouldnt have said anything
AVB - "We signed an agreement last year, of good will and respect. We're not willing to concede to their tactics about the player"
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BloodZeed said:
AVB would not act a puppet for Levy and lie.

If AVB has also been told he is definitely not for sale, Levy CAN'T go and sell him... He knows this would be absolute betrayal and ruin all relations.

This changes a lot.

Get on with it bale modric did for another year
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Post some sources. Sounds like wishful thinking to me.

Marca are saying the potential deal is €100m, €20m per year over 5 years. http://www.marca.com/2013/08/03/en/football/real_madrid/1375514188.html

They are Real Madrid's mouthpiece so they would probably know.

However this: Real tells Spurs it will pay no more than €25m this year - seems odd, surely Spurs will tell them to get lost.

Edit: here's the source for what BloodZeed said - http://www1.skysports.com/football/...tti-wrong-to-go-public-over-gareth-bale-offer

Lord-Jaffa said:
CescON yet?
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Not yet, waiting for him to make some sort of decision, so says the manager.
 
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I think this is a case of Madrid writing cheques that their bank balance cant cash. Now they have are faced with a price (and they have not baulked at that price) that they cant raise the funds to meet.
 
http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/competitions/premier-league/8853828/avb-criticises-carlo-conduct

Respect to Levy if he's holding onto Bale. As much as I'd like to see Spurs invest £100m+ into the squad and possibly even challenge for the title rather than just 4th, I cannot stand how badly Real Madrid have acted. Everyone from their president, manager and players, the arrogance of the club is astounding.

I am torn though tbh on what I would rather see Spurs do. Keep Bale and risk him getting injured or sell him and risk buying a load of David Bentley's?!

If we keep him and he continues to improve though.... it's gonna be a great season :D
 
Watching that video AVB came across really well. Being a spurs always appreciated what he did last season but in that interview he came across so well IMO
 
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