Summer Transfer Window 2013/2014 aka Arsenal , we can afford folks and the mancs really want Fellani

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Tottenham have made some good signings and are seeming to bring in some more but has AVB forgot that you need a defence? Looking at their squad they have 3 senior CBs which does not seem like it will be enough especially if they get into the Europa League.

Vlad Chiriches.

Also seems like they are looking at Zeki Fryers as having a role to play in the first team this season.
 
Vlad Chiriches.

Also seems like they are looking at Zeki Fryers as having a role to play in the first team this season.

The deal for Chiriches has seemed to have stalled, although apparently they have had made a new bid today. As regard to Fryers I don't know enough about him to really comment, any Tottenham fans think that he is good enough to be 4th choice?
 
We have from what i have read and its been posted in here a few pages back, that we have £154mill sitting in cash reserves.

Cash reserves generate revenue, cash in owners banks means nothing to Arsenal revenue, interest on cash in Arsenal accounts generates several million extra a year. The money is THERE and NOT removed by the owners. The club is not hugely profitable for the owners, when will people simply understand and listen to that.

The club still has circa 250mil of debt(well that was last year). People are talking about sub 100mil debt because they consider the cash in the arsenal bank account, IE 250mil debt - 150mil cash reserves is spoken of as sub 100mil debt.

The money is there both as a way to generate a few extra million and as an emergency. Arsenal were borderline profitable in the last couple years WITH player sales, who do we have left who is worth what Cesc, Nasri, RVP were, or even temporary form younger players like Adebayor, or Toure to sell off for 25mil + fee's?

What happens if we get no champs league next year. We still have 15-20mil required per year for debt. You have this money in an account so if we drop out of the champs league and suddenly start making 20mil losses a season, that money AND our debt repayments come out of cash on hand and Arsenal don't get into financial trouble.

Spend 150mil tomorrow, miss out on the champs league and start making 40mil losses every year(debt + actual losses).... where do we end up.

The stadium debt is around for another 10 years, its making minor effects on our profitability, its massively increased our income yearly, but not keeping money on hand to cover any financial problems is utter financial suicide.

The 154mil on hand is nothing more than the money we've put towards paying off the debt, most of it shouldn't be touched at all. When the debt is entirely manageable and mostly paid off that money can go back into the club to be used as needed. The entire 154mil isn't currently required to secure financial safety, hence them saying 70mil is available to spend.
 
The resident "ITK" on the City forum says that Barry to Everton is a done deal.

Doesn't say if its a loan or permanent.
In the last year of his contract I think so I doubt we have got a big fee if anything at all.

You should be celebrating.

He was the worst player in your regular team by a huge margin.

I know they have Fernandinho now, but they are lacking in quality DM's with De Jong going a few years back as well.

Especially sine Yaya goes missing to the african cup regularly or they planning on using Milner there?
 
The club is not hugely profitable for the owners, when will people simply understand and listen to that.

The stadium debt is around for another 10 years, its making minor effects on our profitability, its massively increased our income yearly, but not keeping money on hand to cover any financial problems is utter financial suicide.

The 154mil on hand is nothing more than the money we've put towards paying off the debt, most of it shouldn't be touched at all. When the debt is entirely manageable and mostly paid off that money can go back into the club to be used as needed. The entire 154mil isn't currently required to secure financial safety, hence them saying 70mil is available to spend.

Who are the top 10 earners at arsenal and what is their wages?
 
The deal for Chiriches has seemed to have stalled, although apparently they have had made a new bid today. As regard to Fryers I don't know enough about him to really comment, any Tottenham fans think that he is good enough to be 4th choice?

God no. We have much better available in the U21/reserve lot than Fryers.
 
You should be celebrating.

He was the worst player in your regular team by a huge margin.

I know they have Fernandinho now, but they are lacking in quality DM's with De Jong going a few years back as well.

Especially sine Yaya goes missing to the african cup regularly or they planning on using Milner there?
I am not celebrating at all.
I am disappointed he is leaving, he is strengthening Everton that's for sure.

I can understand why we have let him go though, on big wages, were well stocked in midfield and he is getting on.

He has been a cornerstone for our team since he joined though, ask any match going City fan. I have defended him to the hilt and will continue doing so.

Yaya IIRC isn't going to AFCON (I may be wrong), we have Milner, Garcia and Rodwell who are midfielders so its not a necessity we keep Barry nor sign a replacement although we need a CB now, if we can get for example Pepe. He could slot into midfield as well if necessary.
 
Bale Real Madrid shirts are appearing in shops

I like the way the signings been kept so quiet so we don't get raped in the transfer market spending all his profits :)

MW
 
Since 00/01 Spurs have net spend per season of (which are ballpark but fairly close) are 8m/13m/14m/5m/18m/24m/34m/20m/-1m/17.5m/-27m/-1.5m/37.5m with that last one being this season.

so far they've spent almost 60mil(without Willian) but they've also brought in over 20mil. SO a net spend of around 40mil this year. But over the past 3 summers combined their current net spend is around 10mil.... and this is from a club that can comfortably spend 20mil a year.

So you can see pretty much they can spend 15-20mil a year on transfers if they want. But look at the past two seasons, rather than 15-20mil spent, they've brought in basically 30mil.

All they've done is two very lean years, and now one make up big spend year. Its not like they are spending huge, they are just doing it all in one go. If you add Willian at 35mil you're up to just over 70mil net spend for this season, minus the 30mil saved in the past two years, 40mil. 40mil net spend over 3 seasons is basically not much at all.

They could IMHO afford to buy Willian AND keep Bale quite easily. If they sell bale for 70mil +, they will again be back at making some 30mil + in the last few years.

Its spurs mentality thinking ok we need this player this player and this one and just going out and getting the deal done. you could argue its easier said then done, but if players are choosing spurs over us (this has also happened in the past with other players) things need to change now! Arsenal are not a mid table club but I fear this is where we are heading.

We have from what i have read and its been posted in here a few pages back, that we have £154mill sitting in cash reserves.

So in essence we can probably spend all that money and still be profitable but as ive said before the Board are only interested in making profits for the shareholders whilst Wenger buys cheaply or gets players on freebies. But its ok because our best players get to the end of their contracts, get fed up of our inability to win anything or challenge for any trophies and decide they want out. So we end up selling them to our rivals, making them stronger and making us weaker as it has been for the past few seasons.

Im willing to give Wenger till the end of the transfer window to see who we get in, if we dont then im done with Arsenal...wont be watching any of their games this season because i can see a lot of pain happening and the atmosphere is going to be extremely poisonous at the Emirates. If Wenger thinks Sat was bad, hes going to be crying into his cornflakes when literally every Arsenal fan turns on him this season.

I agree, its just about money. RVP left and has already won at Man Utd. I think it will be another panic buy from Mr Tightwad. Arsenal are no longer a club after trophies its about money now. Arsenal use to be admired for our defense and building from the back, seems like a lifetime ago!
 
Looks like someone has written that with a marker pen

Sadly that is how the new Real kit looks like ie the players name, seems to be written in comic sans font:p Looks terrible in all honesty, saw their game the other day against Real Betis.

TICK TOCK TICK TOCK the clock is starting to wind down Mr Wenger...i know you said you are not worried about how close we are to the deadline window but majority of Arsenal fans are....tick tock tick tock.
 
The deal for Chiriches has seemed to have stalled, although apparently they have had made a new bid today. As regard to Fryers I don't know enough about him to really comment, any Tottenham fans think that he is good enough to be 4th choice?

I doubt he's good enough. Spurs' youth setup isn't exactly renowned for pumping out quality players.

However, Capoue is capable of playing CB apparently.
 
Arsenals transfer policy only makes sense if you look at the club from the perspective of an owner who cares about making money from the club.

Wenger is either protecting the management or he is bat **** crazy.

He claims that he can't find players to improve his squad. Rubbish, there are hundreds of players out there that would do that to Arsenals squad. He doesn't want to waste money on players who are not good enough. Well why does he keep doing this. He spends ~£10m and wonders why most of them are rubbish or not an improvement on his current players.

How does he think he will keep what good players remain at Arsenal when they don't compete for silverware, don't get paid as much as other team would pay them and are allowed to run their contracts down. RvP was allowed to run down his contract and he was clearly Arsenals best player by a country mile yet they seemingly did little to address the situation.

I really like Arsenal as a team but they are just shooting themselves in the foot at the moment. If they get CL football this season I will be stunned.
 
Arsenals transfer policy only makes sense if you look at the club from the perspective of an owner who cares about making money from the club.

Wenger is either protecting the management or he is bat **** crazy.

He claims that he can't find players to improve his squad. Rubbish, there are hundreds of players out there that would do that to Arsenals squad. He doesn't want to waste money on players who are not good enough. Well why does he keep doing this. He spends ~£10m and wonders why most of them are rubbish or not an improvement on his current players.

How does he think he will keep what good players remain at Arsenal when they don't compete for silverware, don't get paid as much as other team would pay them and are allowed to run their contracts down. RvP was allowed to run down his contract and he was clearly Arsenals best player by a country mile yet they seemingly did little to address the situation.

I really like Arsenal as a team but they are just shooting themselves in the foot at the moment. If they get CL football this season I will be stunned.

I will be stunned if we do to!
 
Arsenals transfer policy only makes sense if you look at the club from the perspective of an owner who cares about making money from the club.

Wenger is either protecting the management or he is bat **** crazy.

He claims that he can't find players to improve his squad. Rubbish, there are hundreds of players out there that would do that to Arsenals squad. He doesn't want to waste money on players who are not good enough. Well why does he keep doing this. He spends ~£10m and wonders why most of them are rubbish or not an improvement on his current players.

How does he think he will keep what good players remain at Arsenal when they don't compete for silverware, don't get paid as much as other team would pay them and are allowed to run their contracts down. RvP was allowed to run down his contract and he was clearly Arsenals best player by a country mile yet they seemingly did little to address the situation.

I really like Arsenal as a team but they are just shooting themselves in the foot at the moment. If they get CL football this season I will be stunned.

+1 fez, couldnt have said it better. This season is going to painful if Wenger doesnt get some big names into the squad. But whats going to be worse is the atmosphere at our games when we struggle to beat teams we should be battering into the ground. Its pretty poisonous now but will be ten times worse in a few weeks time.

Anyhow 12 days left of the window so am hoping against hope that Wenger has some big names up his sleeve to sign although im fast running out of any hope:p
 
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Arsenals transfer policy only makes sense if you look at the club from the perspective of an owner who cares about making money from the club.

Wenger is either protecting the management or he is bat **** crazy.

He claims that he can't find players to improve his squad. Rubbish, there are hundreds of players out there that would do that to Arsenals squad. He doesn't want to waste money on players who are not good enough. Well why does he keep doing this. He spends ~£10m and wonders why most of them are rubbish or not an improvement on his current players.

First part, Arsenal would make more profit being out of champs league and spending 60mil less on wages. Arsenal profits are not huge, neither have the owners extracted loads of money out of the club. The fact that the 154mil is in Arsenal's bank account to protect the club is proof of this. That would be safely in the owners accounts being used to fund some new business elsewhere to make even more money if that was the case.

The second part, the fundamental flaw with Wenger is he actually genuinely believes Diaby is one of the best midfielders in the world, he thinks Diaby is brilliant and though Song was brilliant, he thinks Walcott is brilliant.

Replacing Ronaldo is basically impossible, the problem with Wenger is, he thinks he has a team full of Ronaldo's.

Again what reason does the board have(in terms of milking profit) for repeatedly giving Diaby new contracts? None, at all, Wenger however thinks he has a potential Fabregas on his hands if he can get Diaby fit and has therefore done his best to keep him and doesn't want to replace him.

He saw something in Gervinho that said "world class striker", and let Vela walk away for next to nothing. Everything points to Wenger being the problem, nothing at all points to the board being a problem. If the board were the issue, Diaby would have been shown the door at the end of his first contract, Walcott would have got told to do a running jump when he asked for 100k a week, Santos would never have been bought, and there wouldn't be 154mil in Arsenal's bank account.

One question I've always had, does Wenger get a bonus based on financial performance at Arsenal, does offering 3mil less for a player end up in him getting say a 300k bonus come the end of the year... lots of other managers have such deals in place, for me it would also explain a lot.
 
Anyone can make that Bale shirt though, for £65 I could get a RM 11 Bale shirt from their site. Clearly a hoax.
RM said Bale's price seems high and Carlo said he doesn't want any more players.
 
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