Summer Transfer Window 2013/2014 aka Arsenal , we can afford folks and the mancs really want Fellani
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roma said all their players are up for sale not long ago iirc maybe financial issues
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Damn sexy Italians thinking they can come over here sexing our leagues up with their sexy facial hair. *****. 
Also +1 for the Gattuso love, even though he's a bit of a bell.
Also +1 for the Gattuso love, even though he's a bit of a bell.
Appreciate spurs will recoup a good deal of the £100 mill spent on transfers if/when Bale goes, but got to wonder what the wage bill looks like now with all these additions.
I'm now hoping we get Herrera AND one of De Rossi or Fellaini, I know which is the more likely of the two though...
I would be happy with just Herrera (although I think the club will of course focus on Fellani lol)
I think De Rossi is a non-starter, he was interested in a move earlier in the summer, but now he has got working with the new manager he wants to stay (there was a direct quote floating around somewhere). Im also not entirely convinced he would be as much use to Utd as he would have been several years ago , from what little I have seen his legs have gone.
DeRossi is still absolutely class, and can play CB also.
Financial issues, said everyone was for sale at the start of the window.
Apparently DDR was open to the move back then but now isn't so much and Roma aren't too fussed anymore after selling Lamela for so much, so I can't see it happening.
So you believe its Wenger at fault, not the board? You seem to have conflicting ideas, or your changing your tune to fit your argument.
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I doubt there'll be that much of an increase, Adebarndoor is probably the biggest earner there and hopefully he'll be gone soon.
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Seriously, you really can't follow a track can you, where have I ever said anything but it's Wenger's fault. The board have made mistakes, Barca/Real/City/Chelsea/Utd boards/owners/presidents have all made mistakes as well, and all backed the wrong managers at time. Fundamentally the board make available all the money the club brings in and all the money from transfers. We sold 100mil of players over two seasons(the two summers previous to this one) and we spent every penny of that + a little bit on transfers in. Boards taking money out of clubs DO NOT allow that to happen.
Wenger is buying the wrong players, keeping the wrong players, getting rid of the wrong players. Wenger is at fault, I've never changed my tune on this once in 8 years.
There's a few guys I follow on twitter that work in football analytics (statto's basically) and they love Eriksen. One of them admits he doesn't give his opinion on a player based on what he's seen and his opinions (for his work) are all based on the stats and a scoring card system they use, and the stats suggest he's a great buy.
Given the way a lot of clubs have started using stats to analyse players (particularly Liverpool), he couldn't understand why so many clubs have scouted him and then not bid.
With how many attacking, creative midfielders that have been bought and sold over the last year or so, it's hard to understand why nobody has gone for him, especially when he's been available for a relatively small fee.
edit: and while he can play wide in a 4-3-3, that's certainly not his best/favoured position. Like a lot of Spurs options, he'll want to play as one of the midfielders in a 4-3-3.
It would have certainly increased a fair bit I'd imagine but nothing they can't manage. Clubs are going to be earning an extra £30m+ per year from the new tv deal and like I suggested when it was first announced, that money will just be soaked up by clubs spending more on wages.
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today should see bale's move to madrid be made official.
will be sorely missed but he's helped us get some great signings in off his fee and immense profit.
he's been a bit of an arse about it but it would be harsh to hate on him as he did everything he could to get us 4th spot, no one can deny that. i hope it works out for him and he sets the footballing world alight.
the spurs will go marching on.
will be sorely missed but he's helped us get some great signings in off his fee and immense profit.
he's been a bit of an arse about it but it would be harsh to hate on him as he did everything he could to get us 4th spot, no one can deny that. i hope it works out for him and he sets the footballing world alight.
the spurs will go marching on.
Nah, i'm following track.
Yeah and you still made top 4. Is that not where you expect to finish yourself? Is it not always you that says wage correlates to performance?
Lol, apart from Kroenke splashing Arsenals £80m warchest last year on a new multicomplex ranch for his mates n him. You still don't grasp the filter down affect Kroenke is having on your footballing club in terms of ability to compete for the premiership. Again, i keep saying it's not a level playing ground, and you still you blame Wenger for everything. Can you not hold empathy in certain situations?
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Kroenke hasn't taken money out of Arsenal.
There is some speculation (more guess work than anything) that he wants/needs to keep Arsenal's cash levels high to balance out the mountains of debt his other business's (owned by his holding company) are in though.
Lol...mate mate mate. Of course they filter money off. He's in it to profiteer. How do you think he's worth what he is, he has very good accountants.
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No, you're not, you quote something I say, reword it and say I don't get it... then when I ask you about it you quote and respond on a completely different topic.
Once again no, you quoted me saying wage has a correlation recently then told me I don't get that wage has a correlation.
Likewise, it's not as simple as that. People suggest Arsenal getting fourth consistently is brilliant because of our small budget. I point to the 50+% higher wage bill as the reason we so consistently get fourth very easily and should simply be regarded as the bare minimum. But that is in the league, it effects when after upwards of 50 games with cups in consideration that a team spending 140mil + is stronger at the end of the season than a team spending 60mil and this should be no surprise.
However Birmingham, Swansea, Spurs, liverpool, Wigan with wage bills from between 30-120mil in the past 5 years have all managed to win cups...... Wages make a difference for consistent performance over time, but cups... we are the single most unsuccessful team in the world spending over 100mil a year(possibly in all sports but that might be a push). No top 4 team in any major league has failed so miserably in European and domestic cups. League and premiership performance isn't the be all and end all of everything and you are using wages to justify FAR too much.
Small wage teams don't win the league, Blackburn spent a buttload to compete, Newcastle spent a buttload to compete, Liverpool were spending a buttload when they came close, Arsenal spent either very similar or more than Utd in the years they won the league. But cup performance, abject failure, the biggest teams frequently get to finals... Arsenal don't and ANY team can win a cup, yet Arsenal don't. Wages and huge squad are the reason Arsenal scrape fourth, for the wage difference and the quality difference that SHOULD provide we should get to far more finals, we should have won more, we should be more competitive in the league and we shouldn't be SO close to losing fourth or so far from first.
IE the gap in wages between Arsenal and Utd is significantly smaller than the difference between Arsenal and Spurs, we should have finished significantly closer to Utd than to Spurs... we haven't in some time.
Arsenal is on the stock market, you can't have "good" accountants, you can't take 80mil out of a club and make it disappear, you go to jail for such creative accounting in a listed company. You very clearly don't have a freaking clue what you are talking about. Kronke has his own money, he can spend it however he likes, he can take 150mil cash out of Arsenal if he wants, its his.
The simple fact is he CAN take 150mil in cash out of Arsenal any time he likes, none of that cash had to stay in Arsenal, yet he hasn't taken a penny out of Arsenal at any time, neither has the board, the board also haven't for years before Kronke were in charge.
Being on a level playing field, an owner taking money out of the club, Wenger's performance, and the ability to spend are ALL entirely separate subjects. You're randomly linking them together because you want to. We don't have the money Chelsea has, we DO have 150mil in the bank, the board can take every penny out whenever they want, and none of that means Arsenal can't spend 30mil or 150mil, or 2mil.
What we do know is that Arsenal brought in 100mil in player sales, and we went straight out and spent 110+mil in player purchases. This money clearly never left the club into Kronke's pockets. Other owners can and do take money from player sales and pocket it. You can't accuse owners of taking money out of the club when given every chance to do so they have never done so.
This is why you have to be decisive with signings isn't it. Players move at certain points in the transfer window / certain years. If you wanted Falcao or Cavani you had to get them this year and they won't be moving for a few years now barring a catastrophe or a monstrous bid before then.
I am still hopeful we will bring in a couple of players but I don't massively want us spending ~£40m on Baines and Fellaini but I fear that is what we will have to do if we want them so late in the window.
As long as we finish top 3 I don't think Moyes will have any problems but an injury to a couple of players in the middle of the pitch could see us really struggle at the moment.
SSN reporting what we heard yesterday:
Wenger does his transfer business like I do on Football Manager; always reluctant to sign big-name players who'll displace current favourites, refuse to pay stupid money on principle even if the money is available, buy and play unproven youngsters even though you know they're not good enough yet, etc. I imagine it's quite frustrating if you're a fan, but I love him for it.
Can't imagine Arsenal fans will be getting overly excited by this latest piece of rumoured transfer activity, but rumours about unknown youngster is more than we're getting here in Newcastle.
Wenger does his transfer business like I do on Football Manager; always reluctant to sign big-name players who'll displace current favourites, refuse to pay stupid money on principle even if the money is available, buy and play unproven youngsters even though you know they're not good enough yet, etc. I imagine it's quite frustrating if you're a fan, but I love him for it.
Can't imagine Arsenal fans will be getting overly excited by this latest piece of rumoured transfer activity, but rumours about unknown youngster is more than we're getting here in Newcastle.
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Surprised he isn't in for Sakho tbh.
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