Summer Transfer Window 2013/2014 aka Arsenal , we can afford folks and the mancs really want Fellani
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What I dong get with Buttner is, what's he done wrong? Watch phil Jones or Smalling occupy rightback and thye are far far worse yet we still play them there repeatedly. So um...Evra cant play every match.
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Been away for a week and had no interweb, Arsenal signed flammini I see but for how long?
A good signing in our situation. Shame about pol, should be an interesting Monday night. Is it midnight deadline?
A good signing in our situation. Shame about pol, should be an interesting Monday night. Is it midnight deadline?
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It's a bit Leighton in his career for moving to the big time no? Surely he's missed his keys development years whilst not playing at the top level
Quite difficult to pull off a play on words when you spell like a 6 year old.
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There's me thinking how nice and pleasant you've been for the past few days
Got a much needed chuckle from me. Football today has been dire
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Could be worse, arsenal looks like Bendtner is going to be our "signing"
Hopefully this isn't plan B but I wouldn't mind him having another shot with us. If he can discover his international form at club level he could be a handy player to have.
But yeah Monday will be a nervy day. Looking forward to the arsenal vs spurs game tomorrow too though.
Money is definitely taken out of the club instead of reinvesting it, I'm also saying, i don't believe an american profiteer who has no affliation with the club cares whether they win the premiership. How much more money do you get for winning it compared to 4th? £5 mil at a stretch. So from an entirely monetary perspective, it absolutely make sense no sense. Man U is going the same way i feel, with Fergason gone, the Glaziers can really lean on the club now, you probably won't like hearing that though. Reckon Sir Alex got out at a good time eh..
Apparently the root of all evil is Wenger according to DM. I'm only trying to balance out an incredible narrowminded view.
Yeah, nah..i'm a Leeds fan, always liked following Arsenal though. As you said nobody's knows Kroenkes true intentions. But you can certainly connect some dots..
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I wish we'd stop dithering and buy some bloody players. Herrera and Fellaini would be fine, we can afford it (surely). I'd take Baines too as RvP shouldn't be taking corners ideally, he's good in the box, and Baines isn't bad defensively either.
Yes, due to us being idiotic earlier in the window we're now going to have to pay more, but we can take it. It seems like every day there's some kind of financial deal with an Asian tyre company or similar being announced, so...
Yes, due to us being idiotic earlier in the window we're now going to have to pay more, but we can take it. It seems like every day there's some kind of financial deal with an Asian tyre company or similar being announced, so...
Money hasn't been taken out. If he did take money out we'd know about it. Beyond (relatively) small expenses and possibly a salary, the only way for him to take money out would be through a dividend which would also be paid to other shareholders - this has not happened though.
Of course he's in it for the money though but that doesn't simply mean taking cash out of the club. None of the American owners of Premier League clubs have spoke too much about their reasons for investing but the feeling is that they've compared the sort of media & commercial deals that's in American sport with the Premier League and then compared the viewing figures between the two and believe there's massive growth still to be had.
If they can improve the revenues at their clubs, increase the value and then sell off part or all of the club, they can make their money without taking a penny of the clubs cash. Taking cash out of Premier League clubs is hugely risky due to the potential backlash from supporters.
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First its not narrow minded, 99% of the things that go wrong for Arsenal go wrong on the training ground and in matches. Losing stupid games, stupid subs, stupid starting line ups for stupid games(no 99% of managers would not play their single best player by a huge margin a week before the only final in a completely stupid game against a team who kick seven shades of **** out of everyone...its a monumental mistake).
You're trying to suggest money and investment are Arsenal's key problem while refusing to answer any point I've made. Lots of clubs spending less than 1/3rd what we do have managed to win cups, EVERY team spending anywhere near what we do consistently gets closer to cups than we do and ALL teams spending what we do or more consistently get to finals and consistently win cups, compete higher in the league, compete for league titles. Money is a very small issue at Arsenal, there are maybe 8 clubs in europe who can afford to maintain 150mil + wage bills, we are one of them, the other 8 clubs routinely win/challenge for stuff, we do not.
The vast majority of our problems come on the pitch, choosing to play Diaby or Gervinho ahead of better players because you believe they are better is a fault of the manager and no one else. Peeing away 15+million on Diaby is the fault of a manager, same for Rosicky, Squillaci and all the rest. You're pretending like there hasn't been 8 years of IDENTICAL mistakes every year which Wenger rather unwittingly owns up to. For instance he not too long ago said Arsenal don't do tactics, we play the same against every team... thats great and all, if you have Barca's squad you generally don't need tactics... but then having none puts you on the end of 7-0 aggregate thrashings by Bayern also. Wenger believes he's beyond tactics or having idea's how to beat different teams, its why for 8 years teams have tactically out manouvred him frequently.
But this is all the boards fault for not investing?
Once again, they DO NOT TAKE money out of the club, you are utterly delusional, they would risk jail doing this and the board can pay out all the money they want whenever they want because it's their freaking money.... yet never have. You can't cook the books, more importantly, again there is entirely no need to. If all these people wanted the money they'd take it, legally as it's theirs, they are actively choosing to keep the money in the club.
AS Baz has said, in general the money to be made is from coming in, turning Arsenal into a commercial success, drastically raising our revenue then selling us for twice what he paid for it making I dunno, 200-300mil in the process. Hopefully if/when he does that he doesn't sell to an owner who will take every penny out of the club it makes.
AS for making more money, financially, instant rewards from winning aren't high, long term rewards ARE high. You get(or got) around half a mil more per position higher up the league you finish. So at one stage there was barely 2mil difference between 4th and 1st. But there is a reason the biggest clubs in the world, actually winning things on the biggest stage have 50mil a year shirt sponsorship deals, those just getting into the champs league are making 20-30mil a year less, and as you drop down the league you get less and less in shirt/other sponsorship.
The BIG difference between Arsenal and Utd in income is essentially entirely down to commercial income, Arsenal's is crap, Utd's is huge, City's has grown hugely from having success, as did Chelsea's. It will not grow drastically without success. The sponsors spending the most will do so for successful teams who get their shirts on show in the biggest games watched by the most people who will associate that brand with success.
The board took on HUGE debt which they would had to have covered in with any bad outcome to grow Arsenal. THe result was bringing in 50-60mil extra a year in commercial revenue from the stadium, ticket sales, food/drink and corporate seating(biggest income increase) and also corporate facilities, conference rooms... unfortunately holding crap like x-factor auditions, that kind of crap. That extra income can all be seen reflected in our ability to go from 60-65mil wage a year limit that Highbury maxed out could provide, to supporting a club that spends 143mil + on wages a year. The extra growth from a 300+mil investment has turned Arsenal from a team that could afford sub 100mil a year in wages(on par with Spurs, increases mostly from tv income increases since 2004) to a team that can afford 140+mil. Where did that extra income go, on the increased wages which Wenger has been allowed to spend every single year.
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Mate, there's loads of ways of hiding it. Setup companies and charging extortionate fees & services, is that not the old classic jig.
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Why is no one going after Ben Arfa? Deserves to be playing at somewhere like Man United.
apart from the goal he was poor. He tried but always made the wrong choice held up play, delayed the cross, over ran the ball.
He's trying to hard again. Needs to keep things simple and his natural talent will show
He injury prone he needs a good season under his belt to get the money Newcastle our looking.
Also he is a horrible person to manage. Newcastle is the only club to keep him happy so far
+1 he's over rated, good player but not all that.
To be fair he might benefit from being in a better team where not everyone relies upon him.
More importantly, anyone else bored of username's trolling apart from me?
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