Poll: Sunday trading laws

[Glaucus]

If you want shops open all the time then your place of work should also be open all the time - it's only fair.

Yet more drivel, it should be upto the company when and how they open. People who work in retail shouldn't be special cases like they currently are. There's existing laws that covers pretty much everyone on working conditions. If its not profitable why would a company open 24/7.

Oh and my place of work is open all year round 24/7.

But retail people think they are special for some reason and post nonsense drivel like you all the time, when Sunday trading laws come up.

Why are you special?
Why should the companies be banned from opening when they want?

You aren't and there is zero resonable reason why they shouldn't.
Perhaps I want to go grab some food from a shop when I work a Sat and sun night, like this week.

 

[Basher]

So I, or anybody else, can do business with them on any day of the week thet I/they choose to

You already can. Doesn't mean I work 7 days or indeed any Sunday, ever.

 

[Damnations Fury]

Scrap, the UK and the people within it have moved on.

 

[Rroff]

The reasoning behind them is outdated... but IMO there needs to be something to break the week up a bit.

I think the whole work/life balance and attitudes towards it are outdated and close minded tho. When I was working 4 day weeks with sat, sun and wed off while still earning a full time wage the difference in my quality of life was amazing, I felt more positive, got proper sleep, had the money to actually do stuff and the time to actually do it, etc. and even at work my productivity was significantly increased and so were other people who were working similiar hours yet despite showing almost 2 fold increase in productivity they slipped back to 5 and as much as they can get away with 6 day working weeks after a management shuffle.

 

[Glaucus]

The reasoning behind them is outdated... but IMO there needs to be something to break the week up a bit.

Why? What is so special about retail? Compared to every other industry?
Its simple if a company thinks its profitable and in their interest to open 24/7 they should be allowed, just like every other industry does. Some companies and/or departments allready do that. Why shouldn't retail companies be allowed?

 

[Longbow]

You already can. Doesn't mean I work 7 days or indeed any Sunday, ever.

Exactly, you don't work Sundays, so you don't care, if you worked in retail you would.

 

[Glaucus]

Exactly, you don't work Sundays, so you don't care, if you worked in retail you would.

Lol, going to say that to me as well?
Deal with it, or change jobs.

 

[Basher]

Exactly, you don't work Sundays, so you don't care, if you worked in retail you would.

That's why I don't work in retail, you missed my point. Why should we treat retail differently to everyone else? If they want to open, why should we be stopping them?

 

[Rroff]

Why? What is so special about retail? Compared to every other industry?
Its simple if a company thinks its profitable and in their interest to open 24/7 they should be allowed, just like every other industry does. Some companies and/or departments allready do that. Why shouldn't retail companies be allowed?

I wasn't specifically talking about retail, I'm of the opinion the work/life balance is wrong throughout all industries and I'd rather not see further backwards moves even if in this particular case the reasoning behind it is no longer really relevant.

 

[Glaucus]

So you would want industrys to collapse? Lose your credit card. Sorry can't cancel it untill Monday.
Need to do maintence on infasteuctire, sorry cant work shifts now, better close Tge stuff down during the busy periods.
It's a 24/7 society, there's no getting away from that. Work/life balance is upto you to find what suites you.

 

[Rroff]

So you would want industrys to collapse? Lose your credit card. Sorry can't cancel it untill Monday.
Need to do maintence on infasteuctire, sorry cant work shifts now, better close Tge stuff down during the busy periods.
It's a 24/7 society, there's no getting away from that. Work/life balance is upto you to find what suites you.

I'm talking about encouraging a better balance not hard and fast rules of when and when companies can't do business.

Getting the work/life balance right is pretty hard as there isn't the right (IMO) general attitude towards it in society as a whole, people have been conditioned towards a certain perspective on it since birth.

I'm fortunate that at the moment I have the choice of living a certain style but I don't see being able to continue it indefinitely.

 

[Castiel]

There is nothing wrong with the Sunday Trading Laws as they are.

The argument that it will increase retail sales is spurious at best.

 

[squawkBOX]

I think the testbed here is Scotland.

Here we have no Sunday trading laws, so 24 hour Tesco stores are open on 4th Jan and close around Dec 24th.

We manage to cope well without any issues here.

 

[Brookert]

Lol, going to say that to me as well?
Deal with it, or change jobs.

I wish I could, but its never as easy as that

 

[MagicBoy]

The Sunday Trading Act 1994 needs to be scrapped. The benefits include increased revenue for the government, more people will be in work and more flexibility for people to buy products on a weekend.

Discuss.

Ridiculous idea. Have a thought for the people working in retail.

I can't possibly see how it can increase retail sales. There's plenty of flexibility at the moment with long trading hours on a Saturday and Monday. What's so urgent that you absolutely *must* have it at 7pm on a Sunday night and can't possibly wait, or get it from the local off-license/mini-Tesco.

 

[bitslice]

You mean like every other industry without legal restrictions on Sunday working exploits their staff? like... erm... ummm... ????

Hardly anyone else works on Sunday for minimum wage, 24/7 industries are probably IT related and get paid as such

if they don't want to no one is pointing a gun to their head.

Do you think people in retail have a great deal of choice in this? So yes this is pointing a gun to their head.

Don't choose to work on Sundays!!!

If I have a job on I work, no money means no food. I'd imagine this is the same for a lot of other people too.

they'd be vastly better and more convenient if they were abolished.

And who pays for the extra working hours? Me, in higher food/clothing prices just so you can lie in bed.

 

[Kenai]

Hardly anyone else works on Sunday for minimum wage, 24/7 industries are probably IT related and get paid as such
Do you think people in retail have a great deal of choice in this? So yes this is pointing a gun to their head.
If I have a job on I work, no money means no food. I'd imagine this is the same for a lot of other people too.

And who pays for the extra working hours? Me, in higher food/clothing prices just so you can lie in bed.

Oh fair enough, I didn't realise people were forced into retail jobs, my bad.

The rest of my points are obviously null and void because I was working under the mistaken impression that people weren't being forced to work like some sort of slaves, sorry.

I think the testbed here is Scotland.

Here we have no Sunday trading laws, so 24 hour Tesco stores are open on 4th Jan and close around Dec 24th.

We manage to cope well without any issues here.

You clearly don't - everything is more expensive and your workers are being abused and exploited against their will. They can't even see their kids you heartless monsters.

 

[MagicBoy]

I worked in retail on Sundays and it kills your social life. There's nothing that urgent in life that we need 24 hour Sunday opening across the large retail sector at the expense of family life.

 

[SexyGreyFox]

Some of us here remember when nothing happened on a Sunday.
No shops were open and you couldn't get petrol.
I can still remember the anger over professional football being shown on a Sunday.
Even now for me it still feels wrong that I can buy virtually anything on a Sunday/

 

[Glaucus]

So I, or anybody else, can do business with them on any day of the week thet I/they choose to

Completely wrong way to think about it.

It's upto the business when they want to open, not all would open 24/7, just like not all offices open 24/7 but many are(things like call centre) if it's deemed nesacery/profitable.
It has nothing to do with what you want, it's what the owners off the business won't. What are the reasons to make retail a special case? Like they currently are? There isn't any justification for the current law and as such should be scraped.