Supermarket Sell by dates

Why is it every week within 2 days I'm having to throw out food, today we binned Scones, muffins, bread & crumpets despite only buying them 2 days ago & this isn't a one off, its every time within a few days of doing a large shop.

Why should we be expected to check every sell by date while rushing around the supermarket as we have to work almost every hour gods sends these days.

These supermarkets are making Millions & have a high turn over yet sell food that goes out of date within a few days.

Yet we are being told we waist food:mad:

Ok, i'm just gonna go ahead and call you stupid... I was trying to think of something nicer, but it's what you are. At somepoint you obviously became under the mistaken impression that food shopping involves going to a supermarket once a week and piling a trolley high of whatever you can fit in.

It might be an insanely radical idea, but you should try buying food based upon what you intend on eating.
 
Never said that, why cant we expect better?

I am just interested to know what does the OP mean by that? You want the supermarket to throw away all the food a few day before the "sell by date" or add more preservative so that the food is full of chemical ?

When the fresh food arrive in store, after the operation of sorting it, stocking the shelf etc.. it only has 3-4 days left anyway.

I have to say having work in customer service, I get people questioning this before.... But of course I can't reply like I just did... :) The joy of working with "Valuable" customers :)
 
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Ive had things delivered when i order online and the food has been out of date. I just email them about it and they refund the money, they're pretty good like that. Also this week one of the 6 pint milk bottles broke so they refunded me and the driver said do you want the broken bottle so i said yes. Got 5 pints of milk free :D.
 
Yeah, shame, they only made TWO BILLION FREAKING POUNDS profit.

Nothing much...

You do have to consider the context of that though. For example, if I said the uk as a whole makes a trillion pounds profit it doesn't mean that we're all rich.

If that 2 billion profit is over a 50 billion turnover, then they make about 4% profit. So if you pay 50p for your loaf of bread, that's only 2p profit. It effectively costs them 48p to sell it to you.

That's not a lot of margin to work with
 
I used to work in the Bakery in an ASDA store and personally think that we made sure the bread was as fresh as it could be 95% of the time. If it's in perforated wrap it will have been made fresh that day (if the bread is even remotely stale it means it's been left on the shelf overnight incorrectly). If it's in non-perforated wrap it will have been made up to 2 days before.

I can tell you from experience that the reason ISB products are stale or mouldy is usually entirely down to neglect from the colleagues and nothing to do with ASDA (or any supermarket) itself. We all know 50% of supermarket staff don't really give a monkeys and will do as little as possible - just enough to look like they've done their job (which bizarrely fools no one except the department manager!). What this means is they'll leave older bread on the shelf (when it should be sliced) and simply pack the fresh stuff and leave it out back without labelling it. The next day or even the day after they'll label it up and put it out meaning it could be 4 or 5 days old on the shelf when it purports to be but 1 or 2 days old. My advice would be to always ask the colleagues nearby whether they have any fresh loaves of your desired bread made that day. I should probably mention that the other 50% of the staff are trying desperately to give the customers great service (and foiling their less caring colleagues' attempts to sabotage the bread quality).

Most other items come in frozen and are mostly appropriately labeled and merchandised. I'd probably avoid all donuts at ASDA because they all come in frozen now and have gone down drastically in quality. Nowadays most supermarkets bake a lot of frozen stuff so when it says 'freshly baked today' it basically means 'reheated today'. It always suprises me how many people don't realise half of the stuff made 'In store' really comes in frozen.

Bread brought in from outside bakeries (HOVIS, Kingsmill etc.) are simply taken off a truck and put on the shelf by colleagues and have much longer shelf lives than their labels suggest as already mentioned. This bread is much better for toast. ;) It's very rare to find mouldy bread on BIBC but it sometimes happen when the packaging has been accidently opened and it's hot.

In relation to how much supermarkets are actually to blame? Well they certainly try to cut corners on quantity and pricing - recently ASDA increased pack sizes from 4 to 6 rolls on a number of lines with an increase in price (obviously) but they also reduced the weight of the rolls from 80g to 70g (meaning smaller rolls) though still labeled them 'large' - it's a small change but over time! What they wouldn't do, however, is break trading laws intentionally (or conspicuously ;)) by selling inedible food; they get in a whole lot of poo poo with trading standards if even one thing is left on the shelf out of date and so it's not at all in their best interests to do such things.

For what it's worth when the bread is fresh I think that it's really nice (not trying to pimp ASDA but their bloomers and french sticks are tons better than anywhere else).

And though my knowledge is very much ASDA orientated I have an embarrassing habit of stalking every bakery whenever I enter a Tescos or Morrisons or Sainsbury's and I can say that the same thing happens everywhere.

Wow I must be bored to post so much about bread. :p

Edit: Holy **** just saw how much I actually wrote, VERY BORED!

Edit2: You should avoid home delivery at all costs, though supermarkets policies on picking (or the actual 'shopping') say always get stuff made that day or with at least 2 days shelf life most staff don't really care and will chuck anything in their baskets. You don't get to assess the date or the quality of what your buying which is something I can't handle personally - I always like to check I'm getting the best for my money.
 
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at work we have to ensure new products go at the back else we get seriously moaned at! We waste so much stock at work because its out of date its untrue - disgusts me tbh
 
Eat the stuff, supermarkets have to play it safe. Most foods will be fine at least days if not weeks past there sell by/use by dates.
Just use some common sense. If bread is mouldy throw it, if it's not eat it. I can't say I've ever checked the use by dates on bread or milk.

Sell by and use by dates are different. I'd eat stuff past its sell by date, but not past its use by date.

Similarly for "best before" dates - they don't really mean all that much. I've eaten stuff a couple of months past a "best before" date and it was fine. To a large extent, it depends on the food and packaging. Ignoring dates on a bag of crisps is a lot less likely to cause trouble than ignoring dates on a jar of mayonnaise, for example.
 
So when did you leave ASDA? They only cut the weight of the rolls a couple of months ago.

And yes the only things made fresh in the ISB are

Loaves apart for the speciality loaves(Bavarian, Soya and linseed etc..)
French Sticks
Morning Rolls and Baps(White, Granary, Wholemeal) Softies, Cheese
Crusty Rolls - Cobs, French Rolls and Tiger rolls

Frozen Rolls(Frozen dough, panned up and proven in the prover/retarder)

Finger Rolls
Jumbo Fingers
Sub Rolls
Great Stuff Rolls(Safeway and everywhere else calls them Bridge Rolls)
Wholemeal Fingers.

All cakes are frozen

Unbaked

Danish
Turnovers
Pies
Cookies
Croissants
Pain Au Raisin

Etc..

Muffins come pre-packed and are just put straight onto the shelf
Doughnuts come in boxes of 36(I think) and are packed into boxes of 4

If the bakery uses the production sheets(What sold the week before and add 50% onto todays production) properly, This will guarentee a fresh product on the shelf.
 
Why is it every week within 2 days I'm having to throw out food, today we binned Scones, muffins, bread & crumpets despite only buying them 2 days ago & this isn't a one off, its every time within a few days of doing a large shop.

Why should we be expected to check every sell by date while rushing around the supermarket as we have to work almost every hour gods sends these days.

These supermarkets are making Millions & have a high turn over yet sell food that goes out of date within a few days.

Yet we are being told we waist food:mad:

You do waste food.

You choose to buy far too much food that has a short shelf life, i.e. far more than you will eat during that shelf life.

You choose to not freeze it.

So you waste it.

I sometimes end up throwing away part of a loaf of bread and perhaps some tinned stuff that's been at the back of the cupboard for years.

That date you're referring to...what date is it?

Sell by: A commercial thing, obviously. It must include a reasonable period of time after the sell by date during which the product will remain in good condition, plus some time in which it will be edible but not at its best (e.g. bread that's a bit stale) plus a safety margin. You can eat food quite some time after a sell-by date, depending on packaging and content. Bread products should be fine for a week after it, longer if you keep it in the fridge and a couple of months if you freeze it.

Best before: The product is guaranteed to remain in peak condition until that time. It will probably for fine to eat afterwards. In fact, it will probably be in peak condition for some time afterwards.

Use by: Don't eat this after the stated date. It might be contaminated by bacteria in a way that might not be easily detectable. It will probably be OK for a little while after the use by date, but don't bet on it.
 
even mouldy bread is fine to eat long as you knock mould off. Not that I would eat it but you can if your desperate for that slice of toast :p

Is it still possible for ergot to be present in rye bread? After all, it survives baking.

Bacillus Cereus - cereal bacteria. I've heard of it...

...looking it up, it appears that the risk of infection by it from bread is extremely small, even if you infect the bread with it and store it in a hot room for days.
 
Why is it every week within 2 days I'm having to throw out food, today we binned Scones, muffins, bread & crumpets despite only buying them 2 days ago & this isn't a one off, its every time within a few days of doing a large shop.

Why should we be expected to check every sell by date while rushing around the supermarket as we have to work almost every hour gods sends these days.

These supermarkets are making Millions & have a high turn over yet sell food that goes out of date within a few days.

Yet we are being told we waist food:mad:

Eat it if it's only a few days out...
 
at work we have to ensure new products go at the back else we get seriously moaned at! We waste so much stock at work because its out of date its untrue - disgusts me tbh

Laws regarding public sale of food are extremely harsh, so companies that sell food must go to great lengths to cover themselves. The cost of an inspection that turns up something wrong (like selling food that's out of date) can be far greater than the cost of wasting it.
 
Supermarkets are crap for proper food, everything is massive produce for 1000s of people in a town, gone are they days of getting a fresh baked loaf from the bakery or a nice bag of carrots from the local farm shop, our supermarkets are just like American ones, pile it high and cheap especially Asda its terrible the same food but massive quantities I much prefer Tesco they don't pile it as high.

One thing about going shopping with your mum is she teaches you how to shop, one of them was check the date on any perishable foods, it takes a second to look and a second to find the better date.
 
I've been thinking about this also. Our meat farmers are struggling to servive with the rising food cost. I think the supermarkets should return the out of date food to the farmers, consumers should also be encouraged to return out of date food to supermarkets.
 
are the tiger paw buns/bread in asda fresh? or "baked" from frozen? anyone know about morrisons to?

Similarly for "best before" dates - they don't really mean all that much. I've eaten stuff a couple of months past a "best before" date and it was fine. To a large extent, it depends on the food and packaging.
you can eat most tinned foods years after the best before date, they wont taste as good as they once did but they wont harm you either.
 
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