Supplements the debate/discussion thread

Begbie · 13 Nov 2012 at 12:20

iamtheoneneo said:
I recently invested in some Kre Alkalyn 1500 - have to say that this stuff is very good, my reps are much more productive and im recovering a lot faster whilst in the gym (though squats are still the enemy)

Much much easy to take, more effective than other creatine products iv tried previously and ok price.
Now I just need to find a protein/high calory powder that i'm happy with as going completely off USN stuff.

Just get fine powdered oats and some whey and smash them together with some peanut butter and some good oil/flax seed.

See there is a new jack3d out without DMAA. Tempted

tom_e · 13 Nov 2012 at 12:20

Begbie said:
Just get fine powdered oats and some whey and smash them together with some peanut butter and some good oil/flax seed.

See there is a new jack3d out without DMAA. Tempted

jack3d micro? Looks crap to be honest and being named jack3d just to cash in on the name.

Begbie · 13 Nov 2012 at 12:35

tom_e said:
jack3d micro? Looks crap to be honest and being named jack3d just to cash in on the name.

Thought so, would prefer just to get some more jack3d (doubt its possible though) but then we get random drug tests so it is not worth the risk.

iamtheoneneo · 13 Nov 2012 at 14:02

Begbie said:
Just get fine powdered oats and some whey and smash them together with some peanut butter and some good oil/flax seed.

See there is a new jack3d out without DMAA. Tempted

recommendation on the oats? will try it out.

tom_e · 13 Nov 2012 at 14:05

iamtheoneneo said:
recommendation on the oats? will try it out.

All the bulk suppliers like MP and Bulkpowders do some form of powdered oats, if you don't want to buy lots or pay postage supermarkets own ready brek is pretty much the same thing.

iamtheoneneo · 13 Nov 2012 at 14:37

tom_e said:
All the bulk suppliers like MP and Bulkpowders do some form of powdered oats, if you don't want to buy lots or pay postage supermarkets own ready brek is pretty much the same thing.

ok so at the moment i can get the USN anabolic fuel stuff for £33 (again not saying its even worthy of that), i just costed it up at bulkpowders for something similar (oats, whey, hmb, peanut butter) and its £56...why would I do this?

not being difficult just interested, are their any benefits here asides from kinda knowing more about what your actually drinking.

Hedge · 13 Nov 2012 at 14:51

Begbie said:
Thought so, would prefer just to get some more jack3d (doubt its possible though) but then we get random drug tests so it is not worth the risk.

Ive been CDTd a couple of times whilst using Jack3d daily and it wasnt an issue.

Im gonna try Craze now though because Im getting lazy in this crappy weather.

tom_e · 13 Nov 2012 at 14:51

iamtheoneneo said:
ok so at the moment i can get the USN anabolic fuel stuff for £33 (again not saying its even worthy of that), i just costed it up at bulkpowders for something similar (oats, whey, hmb, peanut butter) and its £56...why would I do this?

not being difficult just interested, are their any benefits here asides from kinda knowing more about what your actually drinking.

I imagine you get a lot more for your money with the bulkpowders stuff and personally if you're not cutting and taking in plenty of protein anyway I'd drop the hmb which iirc is quite costly and has shown limited effectiveness.

Skillmister · 13 Nov 2012 at 14:52

iamtheoneneo said:
ok so at the moment i can get the USN anabolic fuel stuff for £33 (again not saying its even worthy of that), i just costed it up at bulkpowders for something similar (oats, whey, hmb, peanut butter) and its £56...why would I do this?

not being difficult just interested, are their any benefits here asides from kinda knowing more about what your actually drinking.

I guarentee you get more servings for your money even if the initial cost is more. These pre mixed things never work out cheaper.

Kimi · 13 Nov 2012 at 15:13

Fluttershy said:
I guarentee you get more servings for your money even if the initial cost is more. These pre mixed things never work out cheaper.

True dat, my friend buys some recovery drink for after cycling, http://www.phd-fitness.co.uk/store/p/38429/1/PhD-Nutrition---Recovery-2:1-1.28Kg.html anyway, i told him it was a rip off and had bought most the main ingredients separately anyway for my protien shakes, anyway hes been thought about 5 bags of this stuff at 1.28kg a go, and im still on my first lot since he bought the 5, which admittedly did cost more and i have got to mix it, but its definitely better buying separately

Hedge · 13 Nov 2012 at 16:30

Whats the best standard whey to buy now that prices are rubbish?

Kimi · 13 Nov 2012 at 16:33

Mp still tops for me

Begbie · 13 Nov 2012 at 16:38

Hedge said:
Ive been CDTd a couple of times whilst using Jack3d daily and it wasnt an issue.

Im gonna try Craze now though because Im getting lazy in this crappy weather.

Notices up in the gym now, saying that it is illegal and will be checked for etc since it became illegal in the UK. :/

Deception · 13 Nov 2012 at 20:00

Kimi said:
Mp still tops for me

With Price Matcher... I still get unflavoured for 40ish (£3 difference from before the VAT increase)

Tackle_Berry · 13 Nov 2012 at 20:27

I still have three pots of Jack3D but not getting much of an effect as my body is getting to used to it. I have been trying out Craze the last 10 days and actually find it better then when I first started taking Jack3d. Just really expensive cheapest place is around £28

tom_e · 13 Nov 2012 at 20:33

Ash2097 said:
I still have three pots of Jack3D but not getting much of an effect as my body is getting to used to it. I have been trying out Craze the last 10 days and actually find it better then when I first started taking Jack3d. Just really expensive cheapest place is around £28

Be careful if you're getting it cheaper than it's sold on predator nutrition they're the only official suppliers in Europe and there's been some fakes floating around even from big suppliers like muscle finesse.

Tackle_Berry · 13 Nov 2012 at 20:46

tom_e said:
Be careful if you're getting it cheaper than it's sold on predator nutrition they're the only official suppliers in Europe and there's been some fakes floating around even from big suppliers like muscle finesse.

Thanks, didn't know that I got it from Vitabolics hopefully it's real I will get it from Predator next time.

Hedge · 14 Nov 2012 at 07:23

Ah man I had just ordered some on eBay for 27. Wish I'd read that earlier

Somnambulist · 14 Nov 2012 at 12:57

Deception said:
With Price Matcher... I still get unflavoured for 40ish (£3 difference from before the VAT increase)

Yeah that's what I do. Hate those bloody bags they come in though, takes ages decanting it all into the tubs without spilling it everywhere.

Begbie · 14 Nov 2012 at 13:09

Somnambulist said:
Yeah that's what I do. Hate those bloody bags they come in though, takes ages decanting it all into the tubs without spilling it everywhere.

I've got the big 5kg tubs from bulk supps IIRC, there great. The 5kgs bags of my protein just pour in. Job done.