Supplements the debate/discussion thread

I haven't used whey in about 4 months so it's about time I ordered more for post-workout. This has prompted me to look around alternatives to myprotein and I've seen a lot of fancy testosterone boosters and the like. Some being relatively cheap.

I know this forum generally preaches the "don't use them - diet is be all and end all" but I've been training for years now, I want to take it to the next level and look into trying out some pump supplements or natural boosters.

Any advice or recommendations? :)
 
I think natural test boosters tend to be shot down, but from what I've read on muscletalk gaspari superpump and Jack3d tend to be the highest regarded pump supplements. Never tried them myself though.

Thanks man. Just checked them out, I'm liking the sound of Jack3d but at £30 a go(including postage) I'm not quite sure I could justify it :p
 
I'm currently using Animal Test. It is a natural testostorone booster (no prohormones or steroids) and although expensive, it is interesting.

Alhough I am young with a decent dietand thus (should) have naturally high testostorne anyway it has made a significant difference in terms of recovery times (I am now halfway through AGVT).
 
Getting enough omega 3 in your diet is probably the healthiest thing you can do for your body. Theres tons of studies showing that it helps protect against many types of cancer, heart disease, diabetes, insulin sensitivity, hormone imbalances...the list is endless.

Its also quite cheap and is definately the supplement I would chose if I could only have one.

Undernatured protein covers all those aspects.
 
no thats just because you are weak :D:D

lol! I was ahead of you in the powerlifting totals last time I checked :p

Bout time I came off all the NO powders as I've been on them for longer than I can remember! Run out pritty much now so as good a time as ever!

How's the knee holding up?
 
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hmmm
what protein blend do people use from MP?
got a pouch of that total protein last time but those bags really **** me off.
 
hmmm
what protein blend do people use from MP?
got a pouch of that total protein last time but those bags really **** me off.

True Whey for pre & pwo.
Bedtime Extreme.

True whey is fantastic, great tasting, no froth or foam and pritty much the same as Phd Pharma whey. Has added L-glutamine, BCAA's and some other fancy digestive enzyme gimmicks.

I tried pritty much every flavour sample and found Toffee Fudge, Cookies & Cream and Chocolate Orange to be the best. Toffee fudge masked the flavour of oats the best though. Bulk ordered 11 tubs so worked out at 22.50 each, per 2.27KG tub :)

Bedtime Extreme I switched to as Phd Pharma Blend as gorgeous as it tastes was a tad too expensive for me. B.E. is still good stuff a little different with HMB added etc. If I'm honnest it tastes rather bland & dry with water, not so bad with milk but still tastes dry somehow! Does the job.

If you were interested in B.E. I'll be happy to pop some in the post as I don't think MP do samples of B.E.
 
I haven't used whey in about 4 months so it's about time I ordered more for post-workout. This has prompted me to look around alternatives to myprotein and I've seen a lot of fancy testosterone boosters and the like. Some being relatively cheap.

I know this forum generally preaches the "don't use them - diet is be all and end all" but I've been training for years now, I want to take it to the next level and look into trying out some pump supplements or natural boosters.

Any advice or recommendations? :)

Tbh mate don't bother wasting your cash, I don't preach diet this and diet that at all... But imo test boosters are a lot of garbage. If your going to take iit to the next level then just go with the real deal...

A good solid t-booster that I use though is LG Scienes T-911. I don't use it for that properties though as that won't do much for me lol. But has good ingredient list such as yohimbine and resveratrol. So good for fat burning properties plus added libido. Will make you more horny and better sex drive plus for me "hardens" muscle up, so good for keeping fat at bay and water down...:)
 
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D-Aspartic Acid has been scientifically proven to increase testosterone by 40-50% in 12 days. Might be worth looking into!

Tbh I believe that it boosts natural test to some extent but nothing great as the claims... Otherwise this product would be a world wide thing amazing etc.... second to that anything that's going to put your test thru the roof like that is going to have a rebound effect and shut down the hpta and up estrogen to balance things... So I wouldn't believe everything lol...
 
Isn't the risk of gyno and the likes an issue to consider when you start buggering around with test levels?

Chap at uni was super depressed because some 'test boosters' he had used had started to give him gyno (puffy nipples, and a lump under each nipple). Not quite sure if his test booster were in fact just test and some poor PCT...but back on topic.

Animal M-Stak got a warm welcome over on UKMuscle. Has some ingredients that are also used in T-boosters I think.
 
Isn't the risk of gyno and the likes an issue to consider when you start buggering around with test levels?

Chap at uni was super depressed because some 'test boosters' he had used had started to give him gyno (puffy nipples, and a lump under each nipple). Not quite sure if his test booster were in fact just test and some poor PCT...but back on topic.

Animal M-Stak got a warm welcome over on UKMuscle. Has some ingredients that are also used in T-boosters I think.

Tbh m8 I highly doubt it, maybe he used a certain aas or pro hormone. Natural test boosters do little if anything at all to test levels imo so I doubt it lol. Gyno comes with aromatization, so it would have to put the test levels up a fair bit.

And animal m-stak i've used it myself just because I got it for free off a m8... 8 tablets per day, if I'll be honest it didn't do very much lol. I never really noticed anything different during or after it anyway...
 
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