Supplements the debate/discussion thread
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The Protein Works has 6 kinds
There is little net effect difference between a good quality (like from MP or TPW) creatine monohydrate or Creapure.
There are some differences in the other creatine compounds(?) in terms of absorption/solubility and bioavailability. TPW usually has good descriptions: http://www.theproteinworks.com/products/powders/creatine
It truly is awesome. Perfect mix of flavour, not sweet nor bitter and a subtle bit of cherry. Best one so far.
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Not really. Creatine mono is all anyone needs.
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I sort of agree, but there are others available with different properties. I can see it being useful to take a creatine compound that does not need sugars for effectiveness.
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No real difference other than a purity guarantee of about 0.01% more of the Creapure. You should have no purity worries with the likes of MP and TPW though.
Alight lads! never been in this bit as only recently hit the gym (Last week I signed and tried to get there when I can I'm at pure gym ended up there at 2 last night) anyway to cut a long story short I'm struggling my left side recovery wise sucks I hit the bike an hour each time I've been there at least on Rolling hill so a nice workout better than nothing however my right recovers fine and is fine the day after.... so....
What powder should I be using? I asked a buddy in work I'm not here to bulk up yet I've no desire too at the minute I just want to kick myself into gear he recommended maxi-muscle Lean stuff to recover however everything and everyone else I've spoken to have basically said its overpriced look elsewhere but Ill be honest I've no idea what I'm looking at....
Can anyone hint towards what I should be looking for?
What powder should I be using? I asked a buddy in work I'm not here to bulk up yet I've no desire too at the minute I just want to kick myself into gear he recommended maxi-muscle Lean stuff to recover however everything and everyone else I've spoken to have basically said its overpriced look elsewhere but Ill be honest I've no idea what I'm looking at....
Can anyone hint towards what I should be looking for?
I am going to take a guess at what this actually means...
1) you are cycling for an hour, which is what you consider your workout out;
2) your left side recovers more slowly than your right?
Putting aside potential neuromuscular disorders and crazy stuff that might be going on in your brain, you probably have serious mobility issues that are causing you to work your left side differently and less efficiently than your right, hence the slower recovery.
Look at the 'mobility' thread for stretching/rolling work to help (hint: shoulders, hips, ankles)
Secondly, step way from the Maximuscle, and think a bit harder about your diet. In fact, read the Diet/Macros thread for great information.
1: It isn't what I consider my workout at all, I consider it a stepping stone since I've never been in a Gym nor have I attempted to "work" myself in any way. an hour I consider to be fare every night I can (ie I went 4 nights in a row last week) since I wouldn't have done anything before.
Last year I dropped 3 - 4 stone diet wise and my goal was to eventually get myself into a gym and last week I decided it was time
2: It's a mix I believe, the cartilage in my left leg has suffered with my work in certain areas and therefore has overall, I've had issues im perfectly well aware its the way I do things however ive no strength at all same goes for lifting my bar will dip on the left side after a decent-ish work out with my buddy.
The last time I hit the gym I made sure I was doing everything right as I tend to push harder with my right so I dont have to as much with my left I left feeling a hell of a lot better than I did the 3 previous nights and the morning after even with an 8 hour shift under my belt that day/night I had no issues yesterday with mobility in my left leg
However recovering I'm struggling overall as I've never ever hit a gym before
my diet has changed and swopping snacks with fruit has made a massive change too over the past week overallThanks for your reply too ill check the diet thread now
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So what you're saying is you have a weakness and you're avoiding resolving it? 
That is not clever, from a biomechanical perspective or if you're trying to fix the problem you quite obviously have.
At the end of the day, it comes down to what you want to do: you can either fix these problems and take the perceived training hit (you will think that putting less effort in on your right side means you are slacking off - you aren't), or you can carry on and potentially build up far more interesting problems for future use... perhaps including:
- osteoathritis due to long-term favouring of a particular limb;
- chronic joint/muscular pain due to the above and the resulting decreased mobility;
- increased likelihood of soft tissue damage due to either of the above.
So me, personally? I'd fix your issues. There are a number of very capable and knowledgeable people on this forum who can help, as long as the issue doesn't stray into medical advice!
That is not clever, from a biomechanical perspective or if you're trying to fix the problem you quite obviously have.
At the end of the day, it comes down to what you want to do: you can either fix these problems and take the perceived training hit (you will think that putting less effort in on your right side means you are slacking off - you aren't), or you can carry on and potentially build up far more interesting problems for future use... perhaps including:
- osteoathritis due to long-term favouring of a particular limb;
- chronic joint/muscular pain due to the above and the resulting decreased mobility;
- increased likelihood of soft tissue damage due to either of the above.
So me, personally? I'd fix your issues. There are a number of very capable and knowledgeable people on this forum who can help, as long as the issue doesn't stray into medical advice!
I'm in no way trying to avoid resolving this, as previously said and is obvious I've never even thought of anything like powders and what not I was literally just told "you want something to replenish the day after this promax lean stuff will do reet" I'm in NO way trying to avoid I have an issue with my left the pain is apparent when I do things wrong however im saying last night I did things right and the day after I had no issues.
for instance, each workout last week my left leg got easier as I was sitting different and found with every time I went the cycling got easier as im actually doing it and the last time I went I made sure I cycled correctly and evenly, I didn't tend to push more with my left to even it and like I said everything was fine the day after so I obviously did it right, after each workout I tend to have say a pint of milk with a bowl of natural yoghurt and fruit.
What I changed: Ramped up the seat hight, sat correctly on the seat so not to give my right more control over the left. I think somehow im either coming across wrong mainly because I've not even thought about half of this and I don't know how to fix it?
I will be taking the hit and have been I've no problem with that, I did and am changing the way I do things and yesterday proved that if I come across arsey in any way I do apologise.
The reason I'm using the exercise bike mainly is down to I know how I need to be granted I wasn't but now I am, I really do appreciate your reply's mate I was putting the gym off for a good 3 days (signing up) until I realised I was just putting it off down to stupid things, ill have a look deeper into it mate cheers for this again!
for instance, each workout last week my left leg got easier as I was sitting different and found with every time I went the cycling got easier as im actually doing it and the last time I went I made sure I cycled correctly and evenly, I didn't tend to push more with my left to even it and like I said everything was fine the day after so I obviously did it right, after each workout I tend to have say a pint of milk with a bowl of natural yoghurt and fruit.
What I changed: Ramped up the seat hight, sat correctly on the seat so not to give my right more control over the left. I think somehow im either coming across wrong mainly because I've not even thought about half of this and I don't know how to fix it?
I will be taking the hit and have been I've no problem with that, I did and am changing the way I do things and yesterday proved that if I come across arsey in any way I do apologise.
The reason I'm using the exercise bike mainly is down to I know how I need to be granted I wasn't but now I am, I really do appreciate your reply's mate I was putting the gym off for a good 3 days (signing up) until I realised I was just putting it off down to stupid things, ill have a look deeper into it mate cheers for this again!
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No worries at all.
For instance, I had some fun issues 18 months ago when re-starting the gym after a big car accident, so I had to sit back with some pink dumbells for a while during my rehab period.
To be fair, a lot of what you're describing is "new lifter-itis" where you are being forced to move in ways that have been neglected for most of your adult life and - as a result - are finding that a lot of what you're trying to do is quite compromised.
This isn't necessarily a problem if it is something you want to address: a lot of people set themselves up for some big problems (outlined above) because they don't bother fixing them. It's quite simple.
I'd much rather you set off on a good path to a better quality of life than begin with some bad misconceptions and derail yourself later on.
For instance, you may want to think about resistance training (i.e. lifting weights) as a way of improving your weightloss regime, because cardio only gets you so far.
For instance, I had some fun issues 18 months ago when re-starting the gym after a big car accident, so I had to sit back with some pink dumbells for a while during my rehab period.
To be fair, a lot of what you're describing is "new lifter-itis" where you are being forced to move in ways that have been neglected for most of your adult life and - as a result - are finding that a lot of what you're trying to do is quite compromised.
This isn't necessarily a problem if it is something you want to address: a lot of people set themselves up for some big problems (outlined above) because they don't bother fixing them. It's quite simple.
I'd much rather you set off on a good path to a better quality of life than begin with some bad misconceptions and derail yourself later on.
For instance, you may want to think about resistance training (i.e. lifting weights) as a way of improving your weightloss regime, because cardio only gets you so far.
I defo want to start lifting but realise im way off fitness wise however my mate who focus's more on lifting is switching from DW to pure however he hates cardio work outs and he cant wait neither can I to get in there together because we'll spur on both ways.
I've no idea how to lift correctly in any way shape or form so both of us should be cracking together I don't want to rely on him being there as I was going to start when he switched but after the third excuse of me starting up the gym I got sick of myself and just went for it and I know this sort of thing fizzles out (going with a mate) but I need to get the kick into it really I don't know what I'm doing that side of things like I said.
I did a day at DW around 4 months ago with him up to which I matched what he was lifting quite easily however the 5 days after it took me to recover taught me a lesson... I appreciate the replys
I've no idea how to lift correctly in any way shape or form so both of us should be cracking together I don't want to rely on him being there as I was going to start when he switched but after the third excuse of me starting up the gym I got sick of myself and just went for it and I know this sort of thing fizzles out (going with a mate) but I need to get the kick into it really I don't know what I'm doing that side of things like I said.
I did a day at DW around 4 months ago with him up to which I matched what he was lifting quite easily however the 5 days after it took me to recover taught me a lesson...
I appreciate the replys I defo want to start lifting but realise im way off fitness wise however my mate who focus's more on lifting is switching from DW to pure however he hates cardio work outs and he cant wait neither can I to get in there together because we'll spur on both ways.
I've no idea how to lift correctly in any way shape or form so both of us should be cracking together I don't want to rely on him being there as I was going to start when he switched but after the third excuse of me starting up the gym I got sick of myself and just went for it and I know this sort of thing fizzles out (going with a mate) but I need to get the kick into it really I don't know what I'm doing that side of things like I said.
I did a day at DW around 4 months ago with him up to which I matched what he was lifting quite easily however the 5 days after it took me to recover taught me a lesson...
Lifting is awesome.
Once you start, post some videos in the Form thread and you will get plenty of help.
As someone who has trouble meeting his 5 a day fruit/veg mainly through dislike, I decided to give TPW Super Greens powder a go as a quick fix.
http://www.theproteinworks.com/products/powders/greens/super-greens.html
Dear lord, it is the most vile thing i've ever tasted and i've had some questionable things go down my neck over the years
Surely something that tastes this bad must be good for you
I think this'll be the first/last bag I buy!
http://www.theproteinworks.com/products/powders/greens/super-greens.html
Dear lord, it is the most vile thing i've ever tasted and i've had some questionable things go down my neck over the years
Surely something that tastes this bad must be good for you
I think this'll be the first/last bag I buy!
Rollocks