Suspended from work

I was on an evening shift at a shop a few years ago and I was supposed to finish at 8. The place was a tip and when I went up for my break I saw that the 'manager' (a much over-rated and mis-used word in my opinion) had changed my shift so I would stay later and help fix the place up. I asked her to change it back and when she didn't I went mental. Stood and argued with her on the shop floor for about an hour then walked out at 8. She had brought the shutters down by then but I said I would go out the fire escape (which requires paperwork to be filled in) if she didn't let me out.
She knew she was in the worng so nobody further up the chain ever heard about it. She was gone within about 6 weeks.
 
big_white_dog84 said:
I was on an evening shift at a shop a few years ago and I was supposed to finish at 8. The place was a tip and when I went up for my break I saw that the 'manager' (a much over-rated and mis-used word in my opinion) had changed my shift so I would stay later and help fix the place up. I asked her to change it back and when she didn't I went mental. Stood and argued with her on the shop floor for about an hour then walked out at 8. She had brought the shutters down by then but I said I would go out the fire escape (which requires paperwork to be filled in) if she didn't let me out.
She knew she was in the worng so nobody further up the chain ever heard about it. She was gone within about 6 weeks.
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I only ever had someone try to change my shift once. When they tried pulling the fast one, I laughed at them and just went home anyway. They never mentioned it to me. The thing is, if they asked I would've probably stayed, but trying to pull a fast one just makes me not want to help.
 
Hi, you've got to be carefull here, dont give them any other excuses, behave impeccably in front of an independent witness.

Make sure you read the terms and conditions, but make it very clear they were not debriefed etc to you at all.

Explane that the staff spaces were full and that you had no alternative.

Make very clear that the manager was harrassing you and being very aggressive to the point of bullying by using his seniority.

Be very clear that you did not throw anything.

Tell them that if any further actions occurr, you will take it further. there are many avenues open to you, act as if you are certain you are in the right and you will not go without a massive fight and you might push for an appology from the manager.

The HR person will know that you are in the right (unless they're too junior) anyway, once this gets to the next level, (of management) they will all be carping themselves and it'll soon go away, you have a lot more rights than you think and the more senior hr people are well aware of this.

By the way you have right to appeal, and if you do it has to go to the next level up...
 
Get in contact with the HR department at your store now, and ask to see a copy of the Staff Handbook.
Read it very carefully, especially the sections relating to Disciplinary procedures., and grievance procedures. If Morrisons have followed, to the letter, their disciplinary procedures then there is little you can do about it.

It is perfectly legal for a company to have disciplinary procedures that result in instant dismissal for what would normally be seen by people as minor offences, the only legal requirement is that they have followed their procedures. In this case I suspect they have, but its better to be safe than sorry.

Detailed in the Staff Handbook will be the necessary procedures for you to follow to raise a grievance procedure, make sure both you and Morrisons follow it to the letter.

I'm not entirely certain you've got a leg to stand on, to be honest. What you did was wrong, whilst it was petty, it was still wrong. You've been told not to do it and you still repeatedly did it. That doesn't leave you in much of a strong argumentative position. Your main defence will have to rely on the lack of suitable parking spaces, or alternatives should those bays be taken up, and that they're not marked out specifically, and that really isn't much of a defence.


TESCO's workers: If you have an issue with Tesco store managers/supervisors and their treatment of staff members, ring the HR department at the Head Office in Welwyn Garden City and ask them to investigate the situation. There are staff employed there to handle this exact situation, and an oversight group to watch over decisions made by store HR staff. They have the authority to overthrow decisions made at store level, especially if they're illegal or haven't followed the procedures set down in the staff handbook.
 
As usual it sounds like you're getting a rough deal from some idiot in an assumed position of authority.

There is a lot of good advice in this thread for you, but one point springs to mind and that is with regards to recording the meeting on a Dictaphone etc. This would be a pointless exercise unless you wanted to use it in evidence at a later stage (tribunal etc) in which case, as has previously been mentioned, it would be inadmissible.

I used to work in enforcement in a previous job, and any recording of conversations etc, where fine, providing that the other people are aware from the start. Take a friend, colleague, union rep etc with you and take a Dictaphone and inform them that due to previous harassment by the manager, you wish to record the entire meeting for clarity. They may have a hard time denying you this right.

Other than that, good luck mate
:)
 
write down what your going to say and read from it hence u canrt mess it up then


oh and the Buxton Morrison does NOT have staff parking, they park where ever there is spaces
 
I still dont trust managers at all, theres a reason why Managers are on top of that ladder they didnt get there from being nice.

Im quite an important member on my department at purpleworld but I can tell you this ive seen Managers giving staff paracetomals and being nice to staff and then the next day there stabbing them in the back.

Managers will protect there Excessive Wage slips regardless....

Heck ive had a Manager make me redundant cos I didnt socialise with the staff/managment before..... even though I explained to him I would but I get very tired cos all of his m8s at work (half the staff) dont actually work and I have to do there jobs so I get tired and cant do much.
 
Lt. Manlove said:
I was sacked from Subway for giving an unhappy customer two extra stamps. The manager is still a right **** so I hear.
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Now that is shocking.

It just goes to show how badly retail management treat their subordinates. The main reason for this is that they know that they will have no problems filling up the vacancy left by the person who got sacked. Also it has become a culture whereby it is accepted practise.
 
Sorry to bring this into the thread, but all the above horror stories happen and no-one really complains, now recently the French mini-rioted due to the laws that were being brought forward about it being made easier to sack staff.
 
All done and dusted now.

Result: Final Written Warning.

I'm a little suprised at this due to the fact I have had no previous warings or anything on file.

However they failed to follow certain parts of the basic rules set out by the DTi and I intend to appeal based on this :)

SHould be an interesting few weeks at work now :)
 
Psymonkee said:
All done and dusted now.

Result: Final Written Warning.

I'm a little suprised at this due to the fact I have had no previous warings or anything on file.

However they failed to follow certain parts of the basic rules set out by the DTi and I intend to appeal based on this :)

SHould be an interesting few weeks at work now :)
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Seems a little harsh to me...

Definately appeal mate.
 
Psymonkee said:
All done and dusted now.

Result: Final Written Warning.

I'm a little suprised at this due to the fact I have had no previous warings or anything on file.

However they failed to follow certain parts of the basic rules set out by the DTi and I intend to appeal based on this :)

SHould be an interesting few weeks at work now :)
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Be very careful.. and like I suggested to the Tesco's employees, I'd strongly reccomend contacting HR at the head office. Its not unusual for Personnel/HR staff at stores level to just do what they like with scant regard for proper procedure. Request (nicely) that the HR person explain to you the procedures for disciplinary, and ensure that they've followed them, and explain the situation as best as you can to them. Ask them to investigate, and with any joy your written warning will be thrown out.
 
say he tried to "touch me special places" when in the toilet. Draw a diagram like so

touched.jpg


Remember to stand up after he has made his claims then stick this to the wall directly behind you and use your pointer to show the people where it was. When finished remember to grab a tissue and wipe away a single tear :cool:
 
I worked for MusicZone a couple of years ago for a few weeks before i quit. The manager was absolutly terrible, i should have guessed how bad he would be when the interview consisted of 'so, when can you start, this afternoon?'

2 of us started at the same time, and after we had been there a week, we both got a massive shouting at infront of all the other staff because our till hadn't added right, it was about £8 down. Next morning i came in only to be told by the assistant that when he doublechecked it, the manager had counted it up wrong!!! We never got an apology or even him saying he counted it up wrong or anything.

I was brilliant at that job, because i know how to treat people. The amount of customers who said i helped them out loads (it was around christmas time, so loads of parents with lists of bands they had never heard of, or wanting recomendations etc...), but unless I was badging EVERY SINGLE person who walked into the shop he got really angry. Also because i didnt so stupid dances to songs by pink, christina aguleria etc. behind the tills all the time he thought i wasnt working hard enough...

Some managers are just terrible, but as someone said above, they know there is a never ending stream of young people\students who will take your place instantly, so they just dont care.
 
Psymonkee said:
All done and dusted now.

Result: Final Written Warning.

I'm a little suprised at this due to the fact I have had no previous warings or anything on file.

However they failed to follow certain parts of the basic rules set out by the DTi and I intend to appeal based on this :)

SHould be an interesting few weeks at work now :)
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They cant go straight to a final written warning.

Thats why its called "final".
 
atpbx said:
They cant go straight to a final written warning.

Thats why its called "final".
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er yes they can

i did training on disciplinaries last week.

you do not have to do it as verbal warning, written warning then final written warning

the punishment fits the crime

its called final because its the last warning you would get before dismissal. you wouldnt give someone a final written warning then if they do it again give them a verbal.

in any case, after someone has had a disciplinary you can appeal against the decision.

and with regards to a dictaphone, either the person giving the disciplinary will have one or most likely make notes which they should get you to sign afterwards

highlander - im a manager but i dont act 2 faced. we arent all evil!!
 
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