Swearing. What's acceptable?

Castiel said:
Fill in a "Mod" application form...complete the "Don" initiation and voila......Don Biohazard....should be good for a few laughs if nothing else....;):D:cool:
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From an early child I've hated anything that is unfair or appears to have a obvious disparity, i'm no different now. I would make an ace mod but I wouldn't have the time or inclination really. ;)
 
5UB said:
People on this forum have many warnings regarding swearing over and over again. I have never 'got' as to why people need to swear.
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Sometimes no other words can covey the intensity of your statement.

Youtube "Stephen Fry on the Joys of Swearing"
 
Biohazard said:
You speak in asterixis? :D
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:p

In truth one of my mates whose known me a fair few years pulled me once on my swearing, Dudes a nice "normal" guy & said to me that My swearing used to really grate on him until he heard me & me Ma(She is worse than me & will Stab you in the face if you pulled her on it :p) chatting, After that it never bothered him again.
I have to say though that over the years on here & irl I have cut most of my swearing out as it's just not acceptable in the Midlands unlike the potty mouth Londoners. :D
 
Biohazard said:
No one is saying they have to, but because you don't doesn't really relate to how other people - including moderators - portray a subject.
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There is nothing to portray, the rule says not to swear. Simple as that really.

Maybe I am just boring. :p

Antar Bolaeisk said:
I think the autofilters should be modified so that instead of stars it inserts humorous words.
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I agree. :D
 
5UB said:
Then again the rules say that swearing is not acceptable. Majority of time swearing is there for abuse or slagging off someone. - People on this forum have many warnings regarding swearing over and over again. I have never 'got' as to why people need to swear.
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Biohazard does have a point though.....Yesterday as part of the discussion on Stephen Lawrence, part of the evidence used and printed in the news reports and thus the source of my opinion contained some pretty strong profanity...this is in the context of the report and is essential to illustrating the points being made...I quoted the source removing references to swear words when I could, I could not obvious do that for the source itself so had to add warnings as to the content.....the sources were "The Guardian" and "The Independent" so hardly of ill-repute.

I understand that swearing in general conversation or debate is simply not necessary, but there are some rare contexts in which it is.
 
you should never need to swear when typing. period. There's no point. Swearing in talk is probably acceptable at the imminent rage you might want to express, however, there's never a need to type it, as that rage will have passed long ago before sitting down at the keyboard.

Now, **** off :p
 
I got pulled for saying Motherless son & that's in the Bible, Mind you quoting the Bible as source makes baby Jesus cry. :p
 
Nitefly said:
'****ing' has never been considered a swear on here AFAIK.

If you got banned for it, a don was probably looking for a reason to :D
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First hand experience here, I quoted a friend but starred out the swear word except the first letter. Got suspended. But 2 days later after the post was made.

Funny how 2 other people quoted me didn't get the same suspension.

Funniest thing on top of that was someone edited my post to remove the first letter but not 2 other people who quoted me. I mentioned this on my Facebook page. Almost immediately one of them got edited, but not the other. Lol
 
Is the b word a sweary? I got an infraction for using it in a non offensive (to forum members at least) context but see people use it all the time. Just fluke that mine got read?

Hell you can use any word as a 'sweary', just some are deemed offensive and some aren't. You stupid lemons.
 
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5UB said:
There is nothing to portray, the rule says not to swear. Simple as that really.

Maybe I am just boring. :p
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I think there is, people have stuff to talk about so they portray it in a fashion. Writing style really is no different to your style of talking.

The rules say you have to star out swearing, and it appears to be ropey in application.

It's nothing about being boring or what have you, if you wouldn't swear that is entirely your choice. Others will swear for various reasons and swearing doesn't have to always be negative, and it doesn't have to be a personal attack on someone else.
 
Biohazard said:
Can you remove the stipulation to fully star out then?

People are getting caught for this and it really does come across as 'do as I say, not as I do' sometimes.
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I don't think the stipulation will be removed, the rule is to fully star out the swearing and that's correct - the "ing" on the end isn't swearing.

How or why are people getting caught for this? Since it says to fully star out the swearing then surely any time they use less asterisks than number of letters in the word they can't be totally surprised if it becomes an issue for them. While you can post ****ing and not get pulled up about it I don't really see the added benefit compared to just posting ******* as it doesn't make your meaning any clearer - that's if you feel you really must swear in the first place. As I said before if you're in any doubt then replace all letters with asterisks or don't use the word in the first place would be my preferred option.

However if anyone is only partially starring their swearing or they are disguising it by simply changing a couple of letters then use the RTM function - doesn't matter who it is that is doing it, the note will be looked at and a decision made.
 
Castiel said:
Biohazard does have a point though.....Yesterday as part of the discussion on Stephen Lawrence, part of the evidence used and printed in the news reports and thus the source of my opinion contained some pretty strong profanity...this is in the context of the report and is essential to illustrating the points being made...I quoted the source removing references to swear words when I could, I could not obvious do that for the source itself so had to add warnings as to the content.....the sources were "The Guardian" and "The Independent" so hardly of ill-repute.

I understand that swearing in general conversation or debate is simply not necessary, but there are some rare contexts in which it is.
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Problem we have is, how would we monitor that? - You are not allowed to swear, but you are in context of speech if posted in a news article, however you are not allowed to swear in personal writing, however you can post a swearing video in youtube as long there is a age limit on the video, but you are not allowed to post swearing at members.

All of this swearing or not business, or you are allowed to swear in some cases... It would just become a mess and very hard to moderate.

Re-reading my post above... Confuses me already!
 
Biohazard said:
God knows, I've asked umpteen times with no response and I see mods doing it all the time (one today for example).

I get suspended for it occasionally though so I too would like to know what's going on.
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And we've answered the questions umpteen times too. You wouldn't have been suspended for it, it would have been either for the fact that the actual swear word was not starred or was circumventing the swear filter, or pre-swear filter some sort of "dodgy" spelling to make it look like you're swearing without actually being flagged up.
 
Raymond Lin said:
First hand experience here, I quoted a friend but starred out the swear word except the first letter. Got suspended. But 2 days later after the post was made.

Funny how 2 other people quoted me didn't get the same suspension.

Funniest thing on top of that was someone edited my post to remove the first letter but not 2 other people who quoted me. I mentioned this on my Facebook page. Almost immediately one of them got edited, but not the other. Lol
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Sounds like you just need to learn to post better!
 
I have no idea why anybody needs to swear on here :confused:
I've got to quite a few thousand posts without swearing.
In fact I think there should just be a ban and that would solve the problem.
Putting 4 stars and an 'ing' at the end isn't exactly a family friendly forum.

(I have done it but only when part of a story when it was a big part of the story but I would quite happily never do it)
 
5UB said:
Problem we have is, how would we monitor that? - You are not allowed to swear, but you are in context of speech if posted in a news article, however you are not allowed to swear in personal writing, however you can post a swearing video in youtube as long there is a age limit on the video, but you are not allowed to post swearing at members.

All of this swearing or not business, or you are allowed to swear in some cases... It would just become a mess and very hard to moderate.

Re-reading my post above... Confuses me already!
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Quite...I understand the difficulty for moderation and the reasons for a blanket ban, I was only illustrating the point Biohazard was making.:)
 
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